Daruiz Michalczewski vs Carl Froch

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  1. Elvizzz

    Elvizzz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carl Froch is a really tough opponent who will hurt you (no matter if you are better skill wise) Froch has proved his toughness and ability to turn fights around several times. Would be a good fight.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not saying Groves is on par with DM, far from it, DM would walk through him.

    What I am saying is that people don't just walk through Froch. Guys with chins like Froch are not going to just balk at the prospect of facing a bigger puncher and go into a shell like so many other DM opponents. Froch would fire back even when getting hit cleanly and DM was pretty easy to hit himself, it would be competitive because of their styles.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins was wobbled by Taylor in their first fight yet his chin held up at light heavy against punchers like Kovalev and Pascal, though of course Froch is easier to hit than BHop.

    Eubank also got dropped by the average puncher in Collins but when he moved up to cruiser showed an iron chin against Thompson.

    Even the iron chinned Toney has been dropped at lower weight yet showed an iron chin at heavy.

    It's easy to pick on single instances like the Taylor knockdown and be fooled into thinking a certain way. I mean people actually questioned DM's chin for a long time because of what happened in the Rochiggiani fight fight where he took an innocuous shot after a break but looked like he'd been hit with a bat.

    Froch does have an iron chin and even a puncher like DM would likely have to work hard to stop Froch and eat a lot of punches himself to get that stoppage.
     
  4. Rumsfeld

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    This.

    And incidentally, I think a more interesting poll would be DM-Kovalev.

    :smoke
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch's chin is considerably overrated. His groupies act as if he never got hurt or dropped.

    Taylor dropped him. Groves dropped him. Kessler hurt him (in their first fight). Dirrell hurt him. Glenn Johnson buzzed him. He had a very solid chin, but no, I would NOT consider it granite.
     
  6. Brixton Bomber

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    Groves hit him with EVERYTHING and couldn't get it done.

    Kessler, too.

    Buzzed and laid out are two different things.

    If it's not granite at SMW, whose chin is then? Name them.
     
  7. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tiger wins.

    Froch is a fantastic fighter and I like him a lot, but he's not really a top-tier talent in terms of skill, fluidity and athleticism. He's a tough dude who punches hard as hell.

    I think Tiger is a level above Froch.
     
  8. Brixton Bomber

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    ^^

    Shades of Kosta, indeed! :good
     
  9. David HEY!!!

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    But Carl knocked out 80,000 spectators at Wembley Stadium in front of George Groves.

    This is a complete mismatch. DM's power jab would do a number on Carl's nose.
     
  10. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for saving me the trouble of explaining :good

    The critic is also failing to mention that Taylor was outboxed for the last 6 rounds before being beaten to a standstill.

    Groves was TKO'd prematurely after the KD in the first fight, and KTFO in the rematch.

    To suggest that Frochs chin is anything but granite suggests a hater.

    To suggest that Taylor and Groves can't punch is embarrassing.
     
  11. Rumsfeld

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    Not sure that anyone was suggesting that. At all.

    But those two, when compared to an outstanding LHW, I think it's safe to both assume and suggest that DM had greater power and better punching technique than both Taylor and Groves - and by a considerable margin.

    :smoke
     
  12. madballster

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    Good matchup. DM was a lazy, slow starter same as Froch. It would start slow and tentatively, then I think this would be a brutal toe-to-toe battle from round 5-6 on. DM was susceptible to cuts. Might favor Froch here for a late TKO on cuts.
     
  13. FilipMNE

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  14. Serge

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    DM by late stoppage. Froch might possibly last the full course but he'd take a horrible pounding.

    That said, we don't know how the move up in weight would effect Froch and how it might work to his advantage or disadvantage when facing top class opposition. So it's all just speculation really.
     
  15. Serge

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    Collins floored Eubank with a body shot and it was of the off balance or feet too squared up variety when the force of the punch puts you over because your feet are in the wrong position. Fighters usually are hurt when they go down from body shots whereas Eubank wasn't hurt at all. He was totally fine. In fact, he tried to take Collins head off when the referee waved them back on.