Dave Allen retires

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Trafford, Nov 15, 2020.


  1. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I liked him fine until the signal to noise ratio grew beyond belief. Fact is he's traded on his affable nature and done very well from it. Watching him in the sparring against Usyk was the last straw. He's playing at being a boxer, taking the **** out of the sport and the fans watching it. One minute he's saying all the right things, then it transpires he's ****ing training off or making noises about stopping, presumably as a negotiation technique or to keep people hooked on the continuing story. He's not so much a professional boxer as a walking talking soap opera with gloves on. Time to ring the bell for the last time and kindly **** off.
     
  2. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Allen but he has had his time. He's taken far too many punches and this is not going to end well.

    He'll be feeling better now than a couple months back, missing the limelight and the draw of getting in the ring like most ex fighters. Sadly there will be potential money for a Dave Allen appearance.

    Please stay retired Dave.
     
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  3. Donald Donaldson

    Donald Donaldson Member Full Member

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    I mentioned it towards the start of the thread when he first announced his retirement- Dave Allen will 100% box again of that there is little doubt.

    Why?

    Because the money he's made from the sport despite being exceptional for someone of his very poor ability level (he's an area level journeyman fighter, always has been) is in reality quite small in the grand scheme of things. He's only 28 and has to live off something for the next 50 years- it's certainly not going to be those 2 modest rental properties in Doncaster or the little side gigs Boxing Social or Matchroom may give him here and there.

    I expect to see him back in a ridiculously easy 'warm up' fight at some point this year against someone who will fall over in the 3rd or 4th round, and then in a fight for big money for the British title when it becomes vacant. That fight was already being discussed in detail vs possibly/probably Fabio Wardley. Might see him against Babic. Depends which pays more and what opponents Babic can or can't get.

    His retirement was more or less a stunt to try and increase his bargaining power when it comes to his purses. I think when this plan was hatched there was a general expectancy that crowds would be back fully by now so ticket sales would be a factor, as summer 2020 we were out of lock down, and things looked to be improving.

    I hope he stays retired, he has nothing to offer the sport in the ring, will beat no one of note is only risking his well being.
     
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  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    British people love an underdog and a loser. It makes them feel good about themselves.

    He'll probably become a TV personality.
     
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  5. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    He'd be well suited to a reality tv slot. 'Dave Allen tries rock climbing. Dave Allen tries ballroom dancing' etc. I just don't think there's any unanswered questions where boxing is concerned.
     
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  6. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Dave Allen has to be one of the most luckiest fighter in boxing.

    Gets it all handed to him on a plate.
     
  7. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did quite a good video about his experiences sparring. He's actually a lot more interesting here than most of the usual MR pundits. If he was this calm and engaging during a fight night, I'd 100% rather see him working as a pundit than Bellew or Nelson.

    The issue might be that he doesn't keep to the MR script. He's clearly Team Fury over Joshua and has never made any secret of that.

    I agree with others here that he'll inevitably fight again. All just one big stunt. MR love a novelty fighter at heavyweight - that's what they're trying to do with Babic.

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  8. anjawnaymiz

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    I don’t have a problem with him being a British level gatekeeper.
     
  9. Usercom

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    Like many, at first I liked the Dave Allen story, however, over the last 12-18 months, he has been absolutely shameless in leveraging his crowd appeal to fuel what seems to be an increasingly deluded view of what he is and who he is in boxing.

    Also, as Holler has mentioned, he does not respect the sport and thinks that he can simply use it to push his own image and fame.

    Dave Allen today is simply an attention seeker no different to most reality tv stars and like them, he is absolutely lacking in substance.
     
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  10. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    Anyone who follows Dave on instagram will see he’s talking more and more about coming back to boxing now. He originally started off saying he didn’t need it, got what he wanted, much prefers training fighters etc. Then he went back to “If it was a big money offer...” and talking about how busy he is. He’s now talking about how he doesn’t have much on outside of training some boxers and that he’s the happiest he’s ever been (he’s got a new Mrs) and saying he only retired because he was really depressed and down. Saying he’s got the stability now he’s always wanted but saying if he does come back he wants a big fight straightaway.

    I think we all knew it wasn’t going to be a permanent retirement but this has turned round fairly quickly!

    Also, on a unrelated note, the “training” he does with boxers, some pro, some amateurs is ridiculous. Having them in his back garden and in fields is just embarrassing. Danny Murrell did the right thing in getting a proper trainer in Dom Ingle, rather than just spending his time in some dirty field in Doncaster body sparring.
     
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  11. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What has Dave Allen ever done in the ring to warrant being able to say that he wants a big fight if he comes back? He's not Floyd Mayweather, he got outpointed by a guy who literally fried chicken for a living, that guy then got in with Joyce who player with him for a few minutes and then sent him to sleep when he got bored. I'm still amazed that nothing came of the Darch fiasco, that looked so blatant, like a playfight.
     
  12. N17

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    I have no idea, my guess is.

    Like I have no idea why Hearn keeps turning out David Price.
     
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  13. Two Ton

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    Yeah I mean look at Amir Khan, when he became runners up at the Olympics after he got his ass kicked by Kindelan. He came back and was LOVED by everyone. and Manufactured into being a celebrity .Whereas Luke Campbell won GOLD was a true winner and was unknown.
     
  14. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Was he?

    Never liked Allen, stay retired please.
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Not so fast....

    Khan medalled in the Olympics as a 17 year old and the only boxing representative from Britain in the 2004 games... then most notably add on the fact he is p4kistani which opened up the whole Asian market to jump on his bandwagon so it's easy to see why he was a household name.

    Luke Campbell on the other hand won Olympic gold at the very same games that Anthony Joshua did at Heavyweight so it was overshadowed in comparison.
     
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