Dave Charnley v Jim Watt

Waaaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt are you saying???????????? Watt wins

 

I really like this match up would favour a peak Charnley over Watt but without much confidence

 

On Charnley’s good nights he was a real handful for most.
A tough rugged bull of a lightweight with good power and a southpaw.
Beat good men was beaten by good men.
Probably got a raw deal from the home referee when he lost to Joe Brown in the Ring Magazine’s Fight of the Year in 1961 many were convinced he won.
Watt like Charnley a southpaw was fairly unspectacular on the eye but he was teak tough and could hang with anybody.
His fundamentals were pretty sound and though he lacked real power had a good defence and his nagging persistence could wear opponents down.
This is a tough one to call, for all Charnley’s power Watt isn’t going anywhere quick and I see a war of attrition over the stretch.
It could go either way but I probably just lean towards Charnley.

 

Charnley by narrow decision for me.
But could easily tilt the other way.

 

I've always felt that the era overlapping Joe Brown and Carlos Ortiz' title reigns was about the strongest I've ever seen. And Charnley was right in the thick of it. He fought Emile Griffith, Carlos Ortiz, Joe Brown (3 times), Don Jordan, Len Matthews, Jose Stable, Doug Vailant, Paul Armstead, Johnny Gonzalves, Kenny Lane, Tito Marshall, Brian Curvis, Bunny Grant and Joey Lopes. Compare that to Watt's record of Ken Buchanan, Alexis Arguello, Sean O'Grady, Perico Fernandez and Howard Davis. And that's pretty much where it ends. If I added Andries Steyn and Jonathan Dele then I'm starting to scrape. Some of the fighters I left off Charnley's record such as Maurice Cullen, Joe Lucy, Willie Toweel, Sammy McCarthy and Guy Gracia would all be neck and neck with Watt IMO. I like Watt for what he achieved, but there is a world of difference in the talent level. I would go with Charnley with a late stoppage.

 

I think some have suggested that Charnley was mismanaged, they had him periodically fighting quite a few welterweights in there.
What he was doing fighting a prime Emile Griffith in his last fight is a bit puzzling.

 

As with all the " who wins " someone at sometime, puts together ( for me ) a piece that makes the task of wondering and surmising redundant, above is such a post, keep it up scart.
stay safe amigo.

 

Battle of the southpaws.
Charnley for me a fine little box fighter who could dig a bit.
Charnley was put in with class welters by manager Arthur Boggis whom Mickey Duff had a very low regard for, saying Boggis put ££££ before his fighters welfare,matching
Charnley with Griffith was criminal.
I saw Charnley in an extra curricular fight after he had retired ,it was at the Princes Hotel in Dartford his home town.Charnley was a quiet sort of chap, never one to throw his weight about.He was up the bar with a couple of friends and a big lump started on his case with the verbals,Charnley ignored him for a bit but eventually got tired of it he said something to the fella and they went outside.Charnley was back inside within 2 minutes the other bloke did not reappear.This was back in the days when everyone wore a suit and tie on Saturdays,Charnley, without any signs of disarray to his appearance , rubbed his knuckles and returned to his drink.

 

Dave's manager, Arthur Boggis, used to demand top money from promoters. The promoters' revenge was always to match Charnley incredibly hard. People criticised Boggis but Charnley never moaned.

 

Did you know Dave's uncle played for Wolves ? He's the reason the family moved South from Scotland.

 

This is a head scratcher. Irresistible force versus immoveable object and both southpaws. Charnley was an all action type and at lightweight could really bang. He was always on the front foot and threw punches is bunches. He was also utterly fearless and could absorb serious punishment.
In many ways, Dave's style suits Watt, an absolute rock of a man. Jim also used to like to set a hard pace but was more comfortable counter punching. He couldn't match Charnley for single punch power but Watt's punches were all stiff and had real cumulative effect.
Taking cuts out of the equation, (Both were susceptible), I can't see a stoppage, both guys were hard as nails and I just can't say who'd win.
This has the makings of an all time great trilogy of fights that would be talked about for decades.