David Allen: Only an idiot would fight Ortiz if he don't need too (sic)

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    These **** gobbling Joshua fans just won't stop gobbling lmao.
     
  2. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Talk is cheap, when it comes time to sign Wilder will run like hell.......................
     
  3. NakiFan

    NakiFan Proud Kiwi Guy Full Member

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    Firstly I'm not a Joshua fan. I am a Parker fan.
    You call Whyte a bum, yet as I pointed out in my post, Deontay has feasted on other bums without second thoughts. The offer was there from Hearn to fight Whyte for a career high payday for Deontay (reportedly around 4 million), yet Wilder is caught up with false rumours around Ortiz, all the while Stiverne is saying he's next.

    In the meantime, Deontay is reading big word books increasing his knowledge. Because it's power. Apparently.

    Defending a bloke like Wilder is bad for your health @BlizzyBlizz
     
  4. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Wilder can't be defended, he can't fool most of the fans, but there are a few blind ones who will believe anything Wilder or Haymon says.......................Haymon power, that's what Wilder says...........
     
  5. Sephiroth Rising 7

    Sephiroth Rising 7 'No tears please!' banned Full Member

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    It's become fashionable to bash Wilder just for the hell of it.

    I'm no Wilder fan, but it's tiresome reading his name in every single thread.
     
  6. jonze86

    jonze86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder best opponent to date is Stiverne. Had,what 4 or 5 title defences.is holding a major belt. Wilder has to blame himself and his team for this constant blame.

    boxing is business. So Wilder is doing good. But it sounds weird that you refuse Whyte for 3mill. And fight Ortiz for what? And Whyte match would set up AJ megafight nicely.

    So quite easy to understand why nobody believes what this bambi ***** says
     
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  7. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Blatantly nice bloke. I do think he is taken advantage of slightly. He should never of been in with Ortiz
     
  8. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Oh right, so calling out somebody is now pretty much as good as fighting them?


    Oh and AJ has a better resume than Wilder, that's a fact, not even debatable so stop making yourself look ridiculous.
     
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  9. RG1885

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    Yeah AJ should call out Wilder while he has a rematch contract with Wlad then a mando, that would make brilliant sense. Wilder calling out Ortiz is purely a way for Wilder to pretend he wants the big names but the "WBC and Stiverne wont let him". He wants nothing to do with Ortiz, however ill admit now that if he does get it on with Ortiz i will give him full credit, regardless of the outcome, Ortiz is a dangerous man, forget his age, we all seen that an aging fighter can be dangerous (Wlad), and Ortiz can still definitely cause problems, so the fact Ortiz is aging means nothing to me, he can still bang, is techincally gifted and is a danger to anyone in that division.
     
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  10. BlackPanther(Comics)

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    You know AJ didn't have have a mandatory with Wlad until after they fought right? Ortiz and Wilder both called him out before he even fought Wlad. So actually it does make sense.

    Are you Wilder? No wait you aren't. You are one of these morons who goes fro thread to thread typing trash about him like he cares or knows you exist.
     
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  11. BlackPanther(Comics)

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    The only thing ridiculous is when people like you think they know boxing because they watch it on TV.

    AJ beat a washed up Wlad and that is it. If you think bums like Martin, Dylann Whyte and Eric Cormish are good fighters then maybe you should get your head checked. Or better yet take your head out of your butt. You are probably European and we know how simple minded Europeans are. AJ isn't actually European. He is a Nigerian living in the UK.

    So care in their careers neither Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder have fought anybody worth mentioning but since Wilder is a black America he gets this incredible hate from white people like you. Wladimir Klistchko made a career out of fighting bums. I never seen a white European have a problem with that. Tyson Fury did what with this career? Beat a washed up Wlad where he ran most of the fight and almost get knocked out by blown up light punching crusierweight Steve Cunningham and light punching heavyweight Neven Pajkic. I never heard any white European trash Fury. If anything you people act like he is some kind of boxing God.

    Every single thread even threads that have nothing to do with Wilder people like you find a way bring him into the discussion. Get a life kid, if you don't like him who cares. There is more to life than boxing. If you don't like who het fights how does that help you or hurt you?
     
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  12. RG1885

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    It was known before the fight that there was a rematch clause?
    And AJ was given an exemption on Pulev to rematch Wlad, then he has to fight Pulev.
    Yes but you have to realise Wilder also had a pathetic argument with Tony Bellew whilst he was in the UK as well. He cant just go about calling out every single HW and assume that people wil believe him when he turns round and "announces" he will "announce" something in his next "announcement". all he does is announce bugger all and call out fighters that are tied up with other fights. He is all talk.

    Also AJ has said, whether we think its right or wrong, that his aim is to make as much money as possible from boxing. Fighting Wilder when he could face Parker next year is a no brainer. If all goes to plan for Hearn Parker will have beaten Fury and fought Whyte in the UK and made a name for himself or Whyte will have made aname for himself. AJ is obviously going to pick the bigger money unification over the smaller money unification, which means Wilder will have to wait because Parker/Fury are the bigger money fights. In the meantime whilst he is waiting he should try actually getting a decent fight. There is no way on this earth a HW would not make themself available for Wilder, Whyte has already tried, Wilder had no interest, which is a shame really cos it would have built the platform for AJ v Wilder perfectly. Until Wilder plays ball with AJ's team who are the A-Side and builds his part in the fight to merit the big payday he will get from AJ he can sit about fighting Stiverne 2,3,4 and 5 if he wants.
    Wilder needs AJ for his big money payday, AJ has proven already he doesnt need Wilder for a payday.
    Deontay got himself a golden ticket to his dream Joshua megafight and the chance to earn 4mil to get there and he refused it, so he can only blame himself.
     
  13. RG1885

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    Sorry i missed your bizarre point about Wilder not caring or even acknowledging my existence, as if it was a relevant point.
    Do you know him? Does he care for your existence, does he acknowledge it? No. So whether you are defending Wilde ror i am "bashing" Wilder he doesnt care about either of us anyway. Just like how the majority of posters here dont know the boxers they are discussing. If knowing a boxer was part of the rules to be able to discuss them on this forum there would be nobody here. Your point is totally irrelevant.
     
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  14. MrTombourineMan

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    Still 2x better than anything on Wilder's resume, and it took him 1/2 the amount of fights to achieve it.
    Brilliant generalisation there, perfect blend of insufferable ignorance and blind assertiveness. Casual stereotyping is the best form of stereotyping I guess...
    ... backed up by an immediate accusation of racism in your very next sentence. The hypocrisy of this post is hilarious.
    :facepalm::facepalm: Sigh. Tyson Fury is quite possibly the most disliked fighter in Britain, there was a nationwide petition to have him struck from the shortlist of BBC Sports personality of the year candidates FFS. The only people calling him a God are the incredibly vocal minority of hardcore followers. A lot of Brits, including myself, see him as an obnoxious waste of talent suffering from a perpetual victim complex.
     
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  15. RG1885

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    Couldnt have put it better myself.
    Especially the point about Fury, i think he has the ability to box circles round most HW's. Doesnt mean i like the man or think he is some sort of god, hes clearly suffered from mental problems and drug problems after reaching the pinnacle of his career and its difficult to take anything he says seriously so he is largely ignored by the majority of the country.