David Benavidez isn’t a big threat to Canelo

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  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Golovkin and Cotto did it against Canelo.. obviously with much smaller required fees, but those required pays were also 10X+ what they had ever earned in a single fight, at least that was the case with Golovkin.

    Imo, if anyone has earned the right to set a price for a fight its Canelo, why, because he has always fought the best in each division, and that's something that can't be said about most world level champions today.

    Another benefit I give Canelo is that he's not a ducker, and one fighter, especially a limited fighter like Benavidez doesn't define Canelo when you consider who he's been in the ring with.

    I can't see Benavidez beating Canelo, I can tell the difference in skill level by watching both fighters. Canelo is more along the lines of Bivol, Usyk, Crawford in terms of quality, Benavidez is more on the level of Munguia, Matias, Nery. Imo.
     
  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    You're supporting a fighter ducking his clear number one challenger, and the main fight fans want to see for Canelo at this time.

    Youve come to actually condone, and defend a blatant duck. Crazy. And the 'reasons' you give are whack.

    If you support this you should never criticize any other duck in the sport. They are all essentially the same thing, fighters not getting paid enough to fight that opponent. Any fighter would fight any other fighter if they got a high enough payday for it.

    Youre supporting something thats deeply wrong with and actively hurting this great sport and has contributed to its decline.
     
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  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never felt Benavidez had the right style for Canelo. If the power doesnt work David has no Plan B. Also, while it was awhile ago, counter left hooks were a problem for Benavidez against Gavril. Canelo is much better than Gavril w counter hooks.

    I like Canelo by UD w some booing afterward. It will be close and competitive w Canelo's flashy work being the difference
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Nor everything in boxing is black and white Kirk, you know this.

    I do not know the exact reason why Canelo is not fighting Benavidez next, I can only theorize as you can based on his comments regarding Benavidez. I also know Canelo has fought much higher quality opponents and has beat them.

    Golovkin avoided his undefeated mandatory Derevyanchenko and he was stripped for refusing to fight him, Beterbiev and Bivol have held titles in the same weight class for seven years and still no unification fight to this day.

    It's on the WBC to enforce their rules.

    Canelo has already built one of the greatest resumes in this era of boxing, while other champions are avoiding each other. So I think when you consider what Canelo has done and what Benavidez and other champions at 168 didn't do, we can give Canelo a break.

    That's my opinion, and I think putting every into perspective it's a fair opinion.
     
  5. kirk

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    Nah. Supporting and trying to legitimize not fighting your clear number one rival in the sport right now, isnt a fair opinion.

    Its the opinion of someone choosing fanship, and supporting a single fighter over choosing the integrity of the sport.

    Gonna be a funny spectacle watching you ever try criticizing other fighters of ducks again after supporting one of the most blatant ducks of the last few years in the entire sport.
     
  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    It's far from the biggest duck because it's not a duck.

    Bivol-Beterbiev is the biggest duck of this generation.

    Lomachenko-Mikey was the biggest duck of the early part of this generation.

    Benavidez isn't even ranked at 168 from what I understand.

    Had Benavidez waited one week to enforce his mandatory status then you can make somewhat of an argument that Canelo was ducking.

    You cant disrespect every single fighter by calling him a Duck just because he doesn't take a specific fight.

    Do you consider Golovkin, Lomachenko, Wladimir Klitschko duckers because they avoided specific fighters at certain times?

    I don't understand the double standards from some people here.
     
  7. kirk

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    Just wow :lol:

    "I dont know why Canelo isnt fighting him... but, its not a duck."

    then you understand wrong.

    Hes the WBC interim champion.

    He couldn't be rated any higher as a non full champion.

    Canelos not fighting the clear number one contender to his belt. The literal interim champion.

    Outside of Canelos actual belt, hes number one contender at ring. Hes been top 10 longer than anyone else on the list and longer than the number 2, 3, and 4th place fighters combined.

    Him not being Canelos next fight is a joke at this point.



    Golovkin yes.

    Dont know enough about the other two scenarios.

    Only double standards here are yours. And by far.
     
  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Wanting to see Benavidez and Canelo is not hyping Benavidez. He has earned his title shot. He is the 2nd best at 168. There is no one else at 168 that should be fighting for a tittle before Benavidez. The thread that he is not a threat , who gives a ****. He is more of a threat than Munguia. Munguia was not a threat yet he leaped him for a title fight. Oh and before that Charlo.
     
  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What's hilarious is he once indignantly accused Loma of "swerving" Miguel Berchelt, an absolutely ridiculous assertion on its face. The 130lbs version of Loma would have battered that rock-em-sock em robot.
     
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  10. bremen

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    Kovalev was well past his prime but he had the belt and was fighting top opposition. Gvozdyk is also well past his prime, was out of the ring for several years and fought a couple of cans. WBC wh-res elevated him to fight for the fake "interim" belt. Benavidez is poor imitation of Canelo.
     
  11. DoubleG95Fanatic

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    Canelo should go to cruiser and fight CBS/Zurdo.
     
  12. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    Everything you say here is not stupid except the last part. They are nothing alike in their styles.
     
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  13. Silver

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    Agreed, the most likely outcome is Canelo by UD. Benavidez doesn't have the style or the skillset that the two previous Canelo conquerors have had in Mayweather and Bivol. Even GGG and Lara were more skilled that Benavidez. And you factor in coming back down in weight could hurt DB, who's had weight problems throughout his career.

    Having said that, you'll still get a better match up then you had with Muniga, Charlo and Ryder.
     
  14. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo was well behind in that fight when he scored this stoppage and Kovalev wobbled him a few times. Whether the judges had him up or not I think they might of but in reality he was well behind. Kovalev was as shot as Gvozdyk is.
     
  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is a fight I keep going back and forth on. I think either man could win but Canelo has seemingly been avoiding it, I think it's because he's seen things he doesn't like.

    Canelo will walk Benavidez onto big shots, Benavidez will make Canelo work at a pace he doesn't like, his speed and flurries will cause Canelo problems. It really comes down to who can negate what the other man is doing more and gets it right on the night.

    It's a true 50/50 and I think it would be a battle.