David Benavidez vs David Morrell is set for the Autumn

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  1. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Name these guys you want him to fight.
     
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  2. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    Why hasn't he tried to fight anyone good at 168? you mean apart from the guy who is undisputed?
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    But of course it is.:lol:
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you see this ??

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    Apparently Benavidez has not agreed yet. :risas3:

    Quack Quack who's the ducker now?

    "I love zis" *in Canelo voice*
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Why should he? Why give Canelo exactly what he wants by taking an L so Canelo can duck him outright? **** that, insist on the Canelo fight first.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apparently Morrell has been chasing Benavidez for some time.

    https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/04/david-morrell-says-benavidez-fight-100-happening-in-september/

    The article makse a good point : "Morrell needs Benavidez’s scalp to help him get the fight against Canelo Alvarez for himself."

    Look at it from Morrell's perspective, he has two few fights to get the Canelo fight now. But a win over Benavidez will put him in position to challenge Canelo.

    If Benavidez can't beat Morrell then he shouldn't be fighting Canelo. Benaviez vs Morrell is a battle of unbeatens. If Benavidez fights Canelo and loses, he could be damaged goods by the time he fights Morrell.

    Canelo aside, Benavidez vs Morrell is bigger with them both undefeated, especially with the beef between the two and Morrell chasing him. It's a huge fight on its own.
     
  7. CST80

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    He's already beaten Plant, that's plenty enough. Nothing is bigger than fighting Canelo. Stop being a weasel spin doctor and advocating weasel spin doctor like behavior.
     
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  8. shadow111

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    As a fan I want to see Benavidez vs Morrell because it's a battle of unbeaten up and coming prospects. I literally want to see that fight before either fight Canelo because it's bigger now. If Benavidez gets the shot against Canelo now and loses, Benavidez vs Morrell won't be as big as it is now. Sure you can say Benavidez has done enough, but he could do more. The win vs Plant was good, but it was still underwhelming. Many expected him to stop Plant or dominate him. Fact is Plant fought very well and outboxed him for many rounds. I'm not against Benavidez fighting Canelo, but there's an argument that he still may not be ready and could use another tough test first. He did struggle vs Plant, if he beats MorrellI we'll know he's ready.
     
  9. acie2g

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    Benavidez just came out today and said he not fighting Morrell and is fighting Mungina or trying to,
    Everybody from 147-200 wants to fight Canelo he the money guy, calling out the money guy but refusing to fight #2,#3,#4,#5 ain’t that impressive… I like Benavidez he’s a entertaining fighter but to me if you ain’t never taken a risky fight, I’m not gonna believe the guy who only takes risky fights is ducking..
    David just came out today and said he not fighting Morrell and is trying to fight Jamie Munguina next at 168, personally I think all these guys are around the same level Benavidez would probably beat Munguina but Morrell would beat both.
     
  10. shadow111

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    So is it fair to say he's ducking Morrell at this point? Morrell has publicly called him out and Benavidez doesn't seem to want any part of Morrell. And it seems that you recognize that Morrell is the harder fight, that you'd pick him to beat Munguia but not Morrell. I don't see how it's a duck for Canelo to not fight Benavidez for Undisputed as he's not the mandatory. For an undefeated young up and coming prospect to duck another young and up and coming prospect trying to make the fight, though, that's a pretty clear duck if Benavidez is not agreeing to fight Morrell, and is instead saying he's rather fight Munguia or Berlanga. Berlanga's fighting Quigley this week, so we'll see how that goes. Benavidez vs Munguia is a great fight. Problem is he's a DAZN fighter, David is a PBC fighter. Morrell is also a PBC fighter. So Benavidez vs Morrell is much easier to make since they are under the same promotion banner, and since Morrell is calling him out. Sounds like Benavidez is ducking Morrell if he's avoiding his own stablemate calling him out, and saying he's trying to make a fight with fighters from another promotion.
     
  11. tarrant45

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    So fighting the slickest boxer in the division in a 22 foot ring, who also happens to be ranked 2, was not a risky fight? lol. Why do you focus on the money guy, rather than Canelo being undisputed? You realize you can't criticize David for not fighting top guys, right after he sent a 50m contract to fight the top guy?

    Considering a great fighter like Canelo is scared to fight Benavidez even for 50m, doesn't that give you a clue as to why he struggles to get big fights?
     
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  12. tarrant45

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    If Benavidez is ducking morrell then surely you concede canelo is ducking benavidez right? Unlike morrell, Benavidez is canelos most lucrative fight, his mandatory, and ranked 1.
     
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    First off let me say all situation are not cut and dry and no 2 situations are the same, right now Canelo is the top dog in all of boxing everybody wants to fight him his current division is 168 but he can fight any of the best fighters from any weight class up(Bivol,Beterbiev,cruiser?) or down(Jermell,Spence)..

    Benavidez was not interested In unifying titles until Canelo moved up and beat up all the champions, when you have options and are the top dog and top champion it’s on the other fighters to do something to standout..
    We say Canelo Ducking for 3yrs somehow he won WBC/WBA vs Callum in 2020, had to fight Benavidez’s mandatory who he was supposed to fight before he got stripped in Yildrum then proceed to fight the WBO and IBF champ and KO both going undisputed, then went up and challenged the #2 and in some ppl opinion #1 guy at 175 for his WBA title in Bivol, next he finished a trilogy with GGG who was WBA/IBF champ at 160, and just took a tuneup vs a guy who was #5 been top 10 since 2017 and arguably has fought better guts than Benavidez himself… in that same time period savid has fought Kyrone Davis, sheedy Ellis, Plant who just got KO’d by Canelo, and an blown up 160 guy in Lemuix who wasn’t even good at 160 like that.

    Yet you want me to believe that Canelo been ducking Benavdiez, hell David just said he not even fighting Morrell next and that’s his last option he trying to fight Jamie Munguia… the funny thing about all this is the WBC/WBA/WBO have all been trying to make a joint mandatory for Canelo WBC/WBO tried to make Benavidez vs Andrade last yr, and David said he need 10+mil, now the WBC/WBA are trying to make Benavidez vs Morrell and David again saying he not trying to fight:
     
  14. shadow111

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    FYI Benavidez is only ranked by the WBC. He is ranked #1 (the interim champion) for the WBC. Benavidez isn't even ranked by the WBA, WBO or IBF. So that means that Canelo has no obligation to defend any of those titles against Benavidez. Morrell has been interim SMW WBA Champion for a lot longer than Benavidez has for the WBC. Morrell has been the regular WBA Champ for almost 2 years now. Ryder was the WBO interim champ, he became that by beating Zach Parker. Now Andrade is currently #1 in the WBO. William Scull is currently the #1 ranked Super Middleweight in the IBF.

    Morrell has just as much right to fight Canelo as Benavidez, if not more. If they fought, then the winner could be interim champ / mandatory for both the WBC and the WBA.

    As it stands, the WBC or the WBA could mandate Canelo fight Benavidez / Morrell for their titles, but they have not because they cannot mandate Canelo defend the Undisputed. I doubt Benavidez is interested in fighting Canelo for just the WBC. So he could capture the WBA interim / regular strap by beating Morrell which will give him more bargaining power.
     
  15. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo could have taken Benavidez belt in 2019 after he beat Fielding. Instead he went back to 160 for Jacobs. He does not want to face that young man.
     
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