David Benevidez Vs. Canelo Alvarez...

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Benevidez Vs. Canelo

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There was a link to the interview. Eddie pretty much said they though Bivol is walk in the park and they cherrypick him.
     
  2. Thunderstorm

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  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I want to see it.
     
  4. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what, Boxing is a business. You can't fight everyone.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    There was a thread about it. I think it was called Eddie Hearn admitting Canelo cherrypick Bivol or smth like that.

    Eh i wasted my time to do your job, but here it is:
    [url]https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/eddie-hearn-admitting-bivol-was-a-cherrypick.686062/[/url]

    There was also a post fight interview where he said similar stuffs, that they didn't think Bivol was that good.
    Check youtube and see where it is.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearn saying he didn't think Bivol would win does not automatically equal Hearn cherrypicked Bivol. Hearn could've been honest about thinking that Canelo was a better fighter and Bivol winning suprised him. Bivol was a LHW champion and anyone with a a few braincells could see the skill and see the talent

    Look a promoter thought his elite level cash cow will emerge victorious and got proven wrong !! It was a cherry pick !!! Lol. Canelo aging Beterbiev out and planning on fighting him as a middle-aged man is a cherry pick but this wasn't

    Honestly..... the fact that Hearn isn't worried to make a rematch says it all. And that rematch should not happen if Hearn knows whats best for Alverez. Bivol will ruin him
     
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  7. JabbaTheGut

    JabbaTheGut Active Member Full Member

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    Benavidez is bigger than Bivol
     
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  8. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Why you quote me at first ? Don't drag me into this wasting time discussion. Another guy was claiming that. I just give you the thread with what Hearn said.
    We already have done that in the appropriate thread.

    It was even pointed what exactly Hearn said, and HELL NO, Hearn never ever been honest. He is a goddamn promoter. :D

    For me it's clear what Hearn and Clenelo was thinking. That this won't be a hard fight for Clenbuterolos, otherwise they wouldn't take it.
    They though that Bivol ain't nothing special looking at his last 2 fights, and were proven wrong.

    Absolutely the same story with AJ and Usyk. Pretty much Hearn was thinking that Usyk is a top name that will end up in the resume of AJ. Usyk didn't look great in either of his fights in the HW.

    This story playout similar.
    BTW if Canelo was really aiming that high, he would have gone for Beterbiev.
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    Benavidez stops Nelo
     
  10. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [url]https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/canelo-alvarez-says-dmitry-bivol-is-difficult-fighter-for-him/219342[/url]
    There is literally no way Usyk was a cherrypick, he was mandatory. Even if Usyk wasn't mandatory, Joshua is a lot of things but a cherrypicker isn't one of them. Hearn has Joshua fight whoever's in front of him and this is proof Hearn thinking his fighter could win and his fighter ends of losing does not equal cherrypick. Sometimes it does but in this context, based on evidence, no

    A perfect example of Hearn cherrypicking opponents for his fighter is Conor Benn, not Canelo
     
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  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    david beats clenella
    clenella wont take this as he cant claim to be the man at any weights
     
  13. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Did you even read what i wrote or just repeating your stuffs?

    I made it quite clear, that they THOGUHT which is exactly what Hearn was thinking that because of his last showing, this would not be hard fight.
    There is no easy fight with this top guys obviously, but there is obviously easier fights, and picking the fight at the right time, which what was exactly Hearn was thinking with both Bivol and Usyk.

    Usyk promoter also stated exactly the same thing after the match. Actually it was Usyk, and his promoter admit it.
    Usyk/his promoter(don't remember already as it past quite some time already, but it was in Ukrainian TV after the fight) said that AJ/Hearn was literally ready to duck Usyk, if it wasn't for the Chisora fight.

    He said that AJ was in the seat in that fight, and this fight with Chisora(which they though Usyk ain't great) that made Hearn/AJ mind to fight him, and not duck him.

    Now as far as Clenbuterolos goes and the site you gave me, what this has to prove exactly? No fighter will say the guy they face is a cherry pick or it's a bad, it's going to hurt them big time, obviously, lol. I starting to question you by giving me that link.

    But still see what he have to say:
    “Dmitry Bivol is a very difficult fighter because he’s in and out,” said Canelo Alvarez in a [url]Zoom[/url] call. “But I believe I have the experience and the skills to go inside, do my fight and win the fight.
    “It’s not different. [Sergey] Kovalev is really strong, and a good fighter at that time,” Canelo continued when asked how the 31-year-old Bivol is a different fighter than Sergey Kovalev when he fought the then 36-year-old in 2019.

    You say he didn't cherry pick, really? But he cherry picked Kovalev, who was old and washed. He also tried to cherry pick in the CW, and not fighting the actual Champions in there, but to win a title, against a guy everyone knows is just a belt holder.

    And everyone knows that Clenbuterolos was waiting for Beterbiev to get even older, as 37 is not old enough for him.
    If he was really for the hardest fight he would choose Beterbiev.

    Still he get his *** handle to him and i'm happy with it.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How the hell is Usyk a cherrypick when Usyk was mandatory. Think London.
    False, Joshua was ready to give up his belt even after Chisora fought Usyk to fight Fury for undisputed. He was not trying to cherrypick anybody
    [url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/30537682/joshua-fury-world-title-belts-dropped-make-2021-fight-according-hearn-warren?platform=amp[/url]

    [url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/anthony-joshua-willing-give-up-24633197.amp[/url]
    This can be considered a duck yes but to fight the WBC champion who was more established at heavyweight than Usyk with the goal of becoming undisputed champion. Even after all of this Usyk was mandatory and Joshua had to fight him so it's a moot point because it was not a cherrypick. The fact that you believe it was a cherrypick shows me you have no clue what you're talking about
    Wilder did, and so did Murata.
    He did cherrypick Kovalev, but even Kovalev was outboxing him until Canelo found him with a shot and that gave him confidence that he could beat Bivol. He didn't cherrypick Bivol. Unlike Bivol, Kovalev was old and washed in your own words.
     
  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Quote me where i say Usyk is a cherry pick ?
    What i say was crystal clear. Don't try to put words i don't say, as you will end up in my ignore list.

    For the last time, they though based on his last 2 performance, which was also stated by Usyk, his promoter, and also Hearn, that he ain't that good at HW, which most people on here were saying based on his last 2 performance, and as the saying goes, you are as good as your last fight.

    For the last time they though it was the right time for the match, and that Usyk didn't look dangerous, not having much power, not having enough weight, not looking good at HW, which is pretty much what was stated.



    Again learn to read next time. And WBO allowed the supposed unification to happen and they would not strip AJ. So that was just big talk to scare the Organization, cause AJ is a big name.
    He pretty much got no option after the fight with Fury collapse.
    And the only one that got no clue what is talking about, and keep repeating the same b.c. is you, as well as need to learn to read.

    What i stated wasn't my imagination, but it was what Hearn, Usyk and his promotion have said.
    I'm talking with facts here, you are talking out of your ****.

    I always gave AJ credits and that he fight everyone. And prior to Fury - White i also claimed that AJ got the best resume by far.
    Trying to make me a hater of him, ain't working, cause i'm not.
    And again you need to learn to read i didn't say he cherry pick Usyk, i said what they though which i already proved, and was proven million times already.
    They didn't see Usyk dangerous, because of his last 2 showing in the HW. They stated that Chisora fight where Usyk didn't look great was the fight that made them decide they want to fight Usyk.

    This is just stating facts, nothing else. From that point anyone can make their mind.
    This thread is about Benavidez. So people should stop spamming every single thread with complete different topics and trying to drag people in useless discussion that was done million times already.

    As far as Wilder goes, everyone knows he is one stupid ****** he even admitted to ducking AJ. He is that dumb.
    Everyone, even Fury who loves to trashtalk give his opponent credit, whether they are good or bad, to just boost his resume, and overhyping it.
    Hearn is also doing it constantly, it's another thing what they really think of this guys.