David Benevidez Vs. Canelo Alvarez...

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Benevidez Vs. Canelo

  1. Benevidez T/KO

  2. Benevidez Decision

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  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Benavidez would humiliate Canelo and finish what Bivol started, then all the bogus PFP talk would end as well as the Canelo being considered the best Mexican fighter in history talk.
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Here you go
    In the context of Canelo and Hearn cherrypicking Bivol, you said it was "Absolutely the same story with AJ and Usyk" unless you were talking about something completely different, but what else would you be talking about when you kept bringing up the notion that Hearn and Joshua chose Usyk because he looked bad in the Chisora fight even though he that's completely wrong.
    Scare the Organization ? Thats not a bad theory, but how do you know ? How do you know that Joshua truly wasn't willing to drop his belt to skip his mandatory and fight Fury, the WBC champion, had the organization ordered him to fight Usyk ?
     
  3. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you are supposed to be pfp #1 and there is someone in your weight class that might be able to beat you, you should fight him. Canelo is using that title for marketing. Otherwise shut up about pound for pound.
     
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  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Glasses?
    You really are disgusting user, that try to put words into people mouth, where they clearly doesn't say, just to fit your agenda, and waste people time. All time pathetic. You pick an argument with people that just show you the link with proves you are asking and though there is none, then start stretching everything far out of reality.


    Again go visit the doctor, and learn to read, cause i never said AJ cherry-picking Usyk.

    Here is my full post:
    Everything i have said in that comment i proved it with STRAIGHT UP FACTS !!!
    Just as i proved with Canelo. He decide to trash a belt and duck GGG, because he was not old enough. On top of that he cherry-picked(which anyone have different understanding of what this mean, but for me it's picking the easier(not easiest) available fight that still makes you look good) Kovalev, he also have illusion to win an easy belt in CW by fighting, just a holder in Makabu or whatever his name is.

    He also clearly try in his mind the easier fight, which you can describe as some sort of cherry-picking in Bivol, and not face the harder fight - Beterbiev, who everyone though is the guy in the division.


    It was exactly what Hearn was doing. He said he was tired of Sanctioned bodies telling them what to do, and was giving example with Klitschko and all of their "useless" mandatories defense, and that they want to get the fights they want, and not care about this or that mandatory.
    He pretty much play the big boy there, but it worked out, just Fury team ***** up.

    I hope you are happy that you are wasting my time with ridiculous statement.


     
  5. PernellSweetPea

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    I would like to see Bivol against Benevidez..
     
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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bivol 9-3. Too mobile, to precise, too good
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You can go to sleep sir, because you have hard time reading:


    This was my initial post, which mean what the THREAD STATED.
    Next time read better and not put words people never say, just to fit your narrative and dram them into useless discussion.

    And for one last time.
    I'm not a hater on Canelo, and never was on AJ, and was defending him on multiple thread/occasion.

    I was Canelo fan before the first GGG fight, where i just wanted the best guy to win.
    But he pretty much did everything to himself, and put real boxing fan away from him with his stuffs.

    I hope we are done, cause i have more productive stuffs to do, then wasting time with useless discussion explaining what i say or didn't say.

    Your initial discussion was not even with me i just give you the thread link, and tell you where Hearn also state such stuffs, as post fight interview and so.
     
  8. Liquorice

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    Canelo is a rolls Royce compared to this milk cart

    A shot Lemieux :lol:
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I already saw it. It's quite funny considering Hearn was already aware that Bivol would be a tough fight for Canelo.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gi...mitry-bivol-eddie-hearn-boxing-prediction/amp

    Besides, unlike Bivol, Beterbiev is old and don't be suprised if he loses to Joe Smith Jr
    You said Canelo and Hearn cherrypicked Bivol and compared it to Joshua and Usyk. Saying it was "Absolutely the same story" and said Hearn and Joshua all of the sudden wanted Usyk after the Chisora fight which is nonesense. im curious. If you aren't calling Usyk a cherrypick what did you mean by "Absolutely the same story"
    Exactly so Joshua very well could've dropped his belt/belts had they not gave him a greenlight to bypass his mandatory temporarily and fight Fury.

    This isn't going anywhere. There is no point in engaging anymore since you wont listen and keep insisting that Canelo cherrypicked Bivol
     
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  10. Quina74

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    Benavidez is a legit light heavy, Bivol is not. Yet Benavidez is being a coward fighting guys much smaller, and Bivol is fighting bigger guys at light heavy.

    If Canelo beats Benavidez (I doubt), will Bivol still be too big for him ?
     
  11. Quina74

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    That is one hell of a reach. Why do you keep trying to justify Canelo as not being a cherrypicker?

    I've already explained to you in detail that he cherrypicked his way around 168lbs. He cherrypicked Kovalev and Fielding. Just because 168lbers have belts does not mean he can't possibly have cherrypicked. That's literally the dumbest thing ever.

    All fighters have their career managed.. When you're the cash cow and biggest money fighter in boxing, interests are in maintaining that cash flow/hype. That is done by minimal risk, maximum reward. Everyone does it to a degree . Canelo blatantly does it, excessively. There's a reason why he also fought 35-36 yo GGG. And that after winning a very controversial decision he left him without a third for 4 years (despite a third being v lucrative.. This was a huge risk for Canelo.. So he took an easy route.. This.. Is.. Not.. ****ing.. Rocket.. Science)

    Equally, Bivol to some observers looked and I quote them "very poor" in his last two outings at 175 following an 18 months out of boxing. Just because he has a belt, does not in any universe mean that Canelo did not cherrypick him. It is all about timing and circumstances. You're ignoring the obvious for whatever reason. It was a cherrypick gone wrong, even Roy Jones said as much. And Hearn said what we all knew whilst the mic was on.
     
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  12. uranage

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    P4P is not a actual title...it's your placing on a mythical list by fans. No fighter asks for it.

    Once a fighter becomes a A-side & one of the money men in boxing, you call the shots. Alvarez is already undisputed at 168, it's not his fault that Benavidez missed weight & did coke to lose his titles twice.

    If David would have stayed disciplined, he would have been on of the 3 boxers in the undisputed tourney Alvarez fought to become undisputed...but he "blew" his chance.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You did not detail SH*T. You're bringing this nonesense up again when you have no answer

    Explain exactly how Canelo cherrypicked Plant, Saunders, and Smith when they are the only guys at 168 who had the belts and Canelo wanted to become undisputed. The only route to become undisputed champion is thru the belts or am i mistaken ? Cherrypicking and running through a weak division are 2 different things. Him beating all the belt holders at super middle instead of one or 2 and avoiding the other goes against the idea that he "cherrypicked his way around 168"

    Ridiculous
     
  14. UniversalPart

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    Benavidez has such an ugly style.

    I think Canelo could take advantage and pick his spots and force a UD or late TKO.
     
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  15. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You are a ***** poster, who is putting words into people mouth, words they never said, instead of admitting you were WRONG, which you were !!!
    I told you to quote me, and you never did quote me where i say the exact word - cherry-picking. I didn't say that and i already prove that.

    This is what you quote:

    You first try to pick a certain sentences out of the whole context and not quote the whole post, cause it looks very different, but even in your quote the word "cherry-picking" is no where to be found.

    And this is my whole post, which sound quite different, and explaining very well what i ment:


    Now you are continuing trying to spin my words, and make it sound like i said AJ cherry-picked Usyk, which i never said, which was proven at least twice already.

    I already explained myself with Hearn/Usyk/Usyk promoter words what have happened, and it was crystal clear.

    It's a fact that AJ/Hearn though Usyk won't be a problem, after his recent performance at HW, that was proven.
    Just like it was proven that AJ/Hearn decided to go through with the match after Usyk performance against Chisora - facts !!!

    It's a fact that Canelo cherry-picked Kovalev, it's a fact he cherry-picked a paper belt holder in CW, but that fight for whatever reason fall apart.
    It's a fact he didn't go for Beterbiev, but for Bivol, which he obviously though it was easier fight, as it was proven with Hearn words - facts !!!
    It's a fact that Canelo waiting GGG to get older and even trash a belt and ducked him - facts !!!
    Just like it's a fact he handicap a lot of his opponents - facts !!!!

    Keep trying to put words into my mouth that i never said, and you will keep getting embarrassed at the end !!!
    But it's absolutely pathetic to just try to quote few words/sentence and even then try to twist my words to 360 degree to fill into your agenda, which what i say was completely different and with different context.

    Even a baby would have understand what i have said !