David Benevidez Vs. Canelo Alvarez...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JOKER, May 21, 2022.


Benevidez Vs. Canelo

  1. Benevidez T/KO

  2. Benevidez Decision

  3. Canelo T/KO

  4. Canelo Decision

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Still picking canelo by decision. Benavidez is good but his defense isn't good and canelo is accurate against guys who are there to be hit. I think he will land the cleaner harder punches over the course of 12 rounds and win a close decision.
     
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  2. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you saying Benavides won't beat him by eight rounds or more? That's the only way to beat Canelo, that or a KO. If the judges in the Bival fight were held accountable we might start getting fair decisions in this sport. The judges and judging have been exposed. That being said. I don't think even the judges can save him from Benavides.
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Based on what ? It's comical how much you people are swayed on Benavidez beating up a past it blown up middleweight who wasn't all that at 160 to the point you call him better than Bivol.

    If Benavidez were better than Bivol he wouldn't be fighting at super middleweight
     
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  4. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You don’t really believe that do you? Canelo could have fought him before he went to 175 for Kovalev. He could have even fought him after Kovalev. The Kovalev fight was in November 2019. Canelo didn’t fight again til December 2020. Benavidez fought in August 2020. Looks to me like Canelo could have easily fight Benavidez at some point in 2020. He just chose not to. It’s pretty clear he decided he wants to suddenly unify after Benavidez was out of the picture.
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Answer the question, how does a fighter become undisputed without fighting the champions ? How would Canelo fulfill his goal of becoming the unifed guy at super middle without fighting the champions. It's crazy how much stick you give him because he snatched the belts off the those guys. It being a weak division doesn't make it a cherry pick. You're blinded by hate, you've said a bunch of questionable things, like saying Lopez didn't win against Loms, saying Kambosos shouldn't fight Haney and wait for Lomachenko to return, that Bivol would come to spar, didn't give Canelo credit for the Jacobs win, saying the Plant fight was fixed, like seriously ? It's all ridiculous man.
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Again, Canelo cannot fight the same way he has been fighting his last several fights. I don't understand why Canelo fans refuse to admit this fact. If Canelo fights DB the same way he fought Bivol, you honestly think he beats DB in the manner you stated?
     
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  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But who said Canelo would fight Benavidez the way he fought Bivol ? Where did you get this from ?

    And whats this assumption that im a Canelo fan just because i don't criticize the guy at every opportunity possible ? Just because i said Canelo needs to apply educated pressure and slow him down to turn the fight around means im a fan ? What other way should Canelo fight Benavidez ? You want Canelo to outbox a 6'3 guy with fast hands ? You want Canelo to play counterpuncher on the backfoot ? Bivol and Benavidez aren't even the same fighters and Bivol is the superior one. Im curious how do you know what gameplan works ?
     
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  8. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've answered this pretty clearly. You can still cherrypick champions. Just because they are champions, does not mean they can't be cherrypicked based on a whole load of things. Are you telling me you can't cherrypick a champion? Because that is just false.
    Timing, opportunism.. They were cherrypicks as I have already detailed
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not in this specific context no. You haven't given me an answer on how Canelo cherrypicked the champions at 168 when his goal was to be undisputed. At least not an answer that makes any sense whatsoever. You can't become undisputed without fighting a champion. It's impossible. Had Canelo gotten a couple of belts off of said champions and then avoided the other champion then you would have a leg to stand on
    You are aware that opportunism is an antonym of Cherrypicking right ?
     
  10. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You need exceptional firepower or ring IQ to beat Canelo

    Benavidez does not have either

    Canelo is also better at 168lbs than 175lbs too and if he can rediscover the form that he had against Chavez Jnr then he can pick Benavidez apart.

    Can Canelo discover THAT type of form though?
     
  11. Quina74

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    Again he didn't, Loma was the end of a bad decision. I've already explained that Loma won round 2 and 6 (the contended rounds), and 7-11. Many, including Ward and Crawford had 2 and 6 to Loma. Why are you acting like they were clear Lopez rounds? They weren't, in the slightest, and again ive already previously made a very good case for Loma winning rounds 2 and 6.. Because he landed more clean shots.
    Yeah he shouldn't have, because if he happens to lose Haney will duck Loma, hold the belt hostage or jump weights.
    Yeah, based on trends. And I was in the right to believe so.
    Because Canelo didn't slap a rehydration clauze on him and Jacobs didn't follow up getting a gift from C level Rosado
     
  12. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, obviously you cant become undisputed without beating all the champions. My answer is this, Canelo cherrypicked them all based on fighting at the right times and under the circumstances.
    What are you talking about? Canelo chose where, when and under what circumstances to fight his opponents. Quote the dictionary "Being an opportunist mean people who see a chance to gain some advantage from a situation, often at the expense of ethics or morals"
     
  13. lobk

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    What are you basing this on? That Lemieux hits harder than Canelo? Let just take a look at their common opponent BJS. Canelo broke his face while Lemieux chased him for 12 rnds. GGG was not phased by Lemieux punches and stopped him. While he was very leery to throw from fear of eating a Canelo counter.

    No doubt Lemieux has KO power but against the top guys his power is average.
     
  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Make a poll
    Favoritism at it's finest. Even though Lomachenko is in a war, Kambosos simply shouldn't fight Haney because you're scared that Haney has a good chance of winning and you think Haney will duck. Despite the fact there there's nothing that Haney would be scared to fight Lomachenko. I personally believe Haney will move up but whether thats because he doesn't want Loma is up for debate, provided he even does move up. Had Loma beaten Lopez i doubt Haney would be scared to fight him
    No you thought you were right to believe so but you were wrong and i kept trying to tell you that before the fight
     
  15. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Canelo fought the same way the last several fights. No jab, no head movement, not setting up punches, few combo's, loading up on power shots. Thats where that comes from. As far as game plan goes, the fights Canelo has struggled in and lost were against guys with good movement and decent jabs.
    You did say Canelo stops DB. I simply stated Canelo cannot bear DB fighting the same way he's been fighting his last few fights. Do you agree or disagree with that statement?