David Bey vs. Alfredo Evangelista

I got Bey.

 

Bey by KO

 

WBC had Evangelista like # 3 world contender at one time, who did he beat in any top ten period?

 

I think he beat snipes didn’t he?

 

I'll have to go over his record , alotta guys especially heavyweights made top ten lists without prudentials
WBC
Dated : OCT 1, 1978
Champion : Larry Holmes
1-..Ken Norton
2-..Jimmy Young
3-..Alfredo Evangelista
4-..Earnie Shavers
5-..Leon Spinks
6-..Alfio Righetti
7-..lucien Rodriguez
8-..Leroy Jones
9-..Ossie Ocasio
10-Scott LeDoux

Note: this could very well be the weakest top ten list i've ever seen!

 

Winner gets a title fight with Larry Holmes?

I guess Bey because he was better at his (short) best than Alfredo was at any point.

 

In Evangalista's case, he would have got a top 10 ranking by default when winning the EBU crown, which he did a couple of times, and his first reign lasted 18 months.

 

That really is a pathetic top 10. Take out Norton, Young and Shavers and you basically have journeymen and a one hit wonder in Spinks.
The three Europeans is extremely sad. Leroy Jones was a fat guy that could only jab. Ossie Ocasio could only beat Jimmy Young. Love Scott Ledoux, honest, solid hard working fighter but was never a top tenner.

 

It was a time between eras, in a way. Foreman was retired, Frazier was retired, Quarry was retired, Bobick was exposed, Howard Smith was exposed, Johnny Boudreaux was exposed, Mercado was beaten by Tate and Weaver, and Bonavena had been murdered.

Meanwhile Weaver hadn't yet emerged. Neither had Tate or Cooney. Several other 80's constants hadn't yet turned pro.

Lyle was still in most rankings at that point; I wonder what he did to the WBC or Don King to not be ranked? Perhaps his legal troubles got him disqualified in the eyes of the WBC. Knoetze and Coetzee were ranked by everyone else, but the WBC refused to rank them because of South Africa's apartheid policies. Of course, Knoetze didn't pan out. But Coetzee did, as a top-5 contender anyway.

I'm surprised the WBC ranked Shavers so highly. He was one of those guys we thought was done at that point, and other rankings from the period reflect that. Of course he came back strong vs. Norton & Holmes in 1979.

I'm not a fan of regional titles guaranteeing world rankings, re Evangelista and Rodriguez. Righetti must've had a connection.

Glass half-full: Leroy Jones only lost to a Larry Holmes who was at the top of his game. I would have liked to have seen him against other contenders of the era. Or at least read the results; I don't think Jones was the most exciting fighter. Also, Ocasio was a future cruiserweight champ. He was another who ran into Holmes at his best.

 

They WBC was far the worst ratings system i've ever seen period, Hinke, Paez, Bazzuri, Ellis over Frazier 1973, BUGNER NO.2 1975
Pulled Quarry completely out of number 1 ranking in 1970, with no explanation except he was fighting Muhammad Ali, who they did rank!!
they even had Jean Pierre Coopmans # 16, EVANGELISTA #3, AND YOUNG SANFORD, AFTER HIS LOSS TO DUANE BOBICK!! TO # 10 11/28/76

 

There were a group of Euro heavies (Righetti, Zanon, Evangelista etc) in the late 70s/early 80s who seemed to be permanent fixtures in the ratings (you rarely saw a top 10 without at least one of them in it) and were always being spoken of as in line for title shots, even though none of them were doing anything beyond Euro level (and fighting each other a lot). Righetti was meant to fight Ali (but it fell through), Evangelista actually did fight Ali (immediately after a loss to Zanon!), and Evangelista later got another shot against Holmes as well.

 

I've got Alf. That dude could crack.

 

I am friends with Evangelista on Facebook...friendly guy.

But I pick Bey to win. He beat Greg Page, whereas Page almost decapitated Evangelista.

 

Snipes?