David Diaz barely and i mean barely got by a shot Chavez. See this is why....

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    And who has fraud fought above 135 that is so good?

    C-Level Gatti?
    Shot DLH like you said?
    Overrated Hatton like you said?
    Career FW JMM
    Hall Of Famers Corley,Brusseles,Sosa,Ndou?

    instead of fighting guys like Mosley,Cotto,Margo,Williams,KT etc.
     
  2. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No one is saying that Diaz was a strong champ at 135. Even the *******s admit that Diaz was the weakest of the belt holders. This is nothing new, no one ever claimed that his was a good win (however impressive the performance was). It was a tune up at a higher weight. Nothing new... what's the point of the thread?
     
  3. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    None actually, none. Just stating the obvious.
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Gatti is better then David Diaz.


    Did Oscar have to move down in weight to fight Mayweather? :lol:



    Mayweather tko an undefeated overrated Hatton in which Hatton chin was basically ruined. Collazo first started it with stunning Hatton, Mayweather finish the job that Collazo left off. Pacquiao ko Hatton when Hatton was already a done fighter.
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Hatton a done fighter after one loss :patsch:patsch

    Its clear im dealing with a hugger here that overrates all of fraud's wins and underrates all of Pac'sd acomplishments.

    typical floydtoy that feels threatened by what Pac has been doing.
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    No one ever claim? Bs. There alot of dumb biased *******s that is saying Pacquiao tko Diaz was very impressive and brag about Pacquiao winning a lightweight title belt lol.
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Again i'm not even a Mayweather fan but Mayweather imo ruined Hatton the straight right hands, the left hooks, straight right hands, left hook were connecting badly and the ko'ed with a big left hook follow by the turnbuckle killed Hatton chin. And honestly Hatton was not the best fighter imo at junior welterweight. The reason he was the ringmagizine number 1 junior ww is cause he never lost in that weight class but i felt Bradley, Peterson or even Alexander would have beaten Hatton before Pacquiao did.
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    He fought a close fight with Castillo with a torn rotator cuff. And then comfortably beat him in the rematch. And this is a prime Castillo. I'm not going to pick holes in Pac's resumé because I'm not a hater, it's very good. You can't seem to comprehend that Floyd's isn't exactly a bag of **** either. If we are going to get picky, Pac arguably lost against Marquez and only beat Morales when he was past his prime.
     
  9. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    So fraud of all people ruined Hatton's chin :patsch:patsch
    nobody ruined Hatton's chin,he simply never had a good chin.

    And if he was finished by fraud how did he completely dominated Paulie a guy that many think just beat Juan Diaz,the same Juan Diaz that you seem to think would beat Pac.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Fraud fought the best at 130 and 135 theres no denying that but after that is record above 135 is nothing special.

    He still has time to fix that though.
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Cause style wise Paulie is very very featherfisted in which Hatton wouldn't be hurt by his punches. Also the Diaz vs Pauile fight was at a catch weight of 138 pounds. Paulie look way bigger then Diaz. But like i said style wise Paulie is very feather fisted in which Hatton wouldn't be hurt by his punches. Also i don't want to make excuses on this one but Paulie was fighting with a broken right hand in which is why he barely was throwing it after the 2nd or 3rd round.
     
  12. TommyV

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    There's no denying he could of fought Mosley, but you have to remember that even as a Mosley fan myself, he did turn Floyd down in the past. He could of fought Cotto aswell no doubt, but he obviously lost to Margarito.

    But what more do you expect of him above 135? He never planned on staying at 140 long, he wanted to pick up the WBC belt like he's done throughout all the weight classes, and he did that against Gatti. Sure Gatti wasn't at his best, but he was the belt-holder, what could Mayweather do?

    And the DeMarcus Corley & Henry Bruseles fights were both eliminators for the title. He fought those only to get his shot at Gatti. He wanted to fight Kostya Tszyu and he called him out on HBO after I think the Bruseles fight, but Tsyzu lost to Hatton 3 weeks before Mayweather picked up the WBC belt against Gatti.

    Sharmba Mitchell was merely a tune-up to get accustomed to the new weight, and then he went and fought Judah, who many people regarded as still a dangerous opponent. He never had to fight Judah because he lost to Baldomir, but he did. And then to top it off, Mayweather fought Baldomir aswell to pick up the WBC. So what Baldomir wasn't a top-level fighter? He was the champion at 147, so what could Floyd do? Plus, a lot of people were actually picking Baldomir to beat Floyd because the size difference.

    He got the opportunity to make millions against De La Hoya and pick up another WBC belt in another weight and took it, he then got called out by Hatton and stepped up to the plate and beat an undefeated fighter who many were picking to beat him aswell. And not meant as a stab at Pacquiao, but he fought better versions of both DLH & Hatton than Manny did. And then he comes back from a 2 year retirement and beats the - admittedly above his best weight - consensus P4P #2 winning 12-0/11-1 on most people's scorecards and putting on a masterclass.
     
  13. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You also forgot to mention that all 135 champion that time have a schedule fight and only Diaz was available for Pacquiao.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Me too, he should be the 1st 4 weight champion from Mexico but **** happens, what else is new, same old same old.
     
  15. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. Cutting edge insight there Ray