David Haye against the ATG's. Just how many would he beat?

Primadonna Kool; you made some good points. I think I read somewhere that if you take away all Ali/Clay's fights at cruiser weight, his record would have been 28-4. Not only that, but if you took away his remaining opponents who were previous Cruiserweights, then his record in current heavyweight averages would have been 11-1.
I do, however, think that the less body fat you have the better and sharper/faster and more mobile you are. I believe that Shavers would have knocked Haye out, Clay would have out worked him and outlasted him, Frazier would have destroyed him, Louis would have beat him up for 12 or 15 rounds, Rocky would KO Haye after not being bothered by Haye's power. I could go on, but just look at Haye's fight against Wlad - beaten up for 12, against Barrett - floored, Chisora - bloody nose, Thompson - stopped dramatically, Mormeck - floored etc........

Sorry, my point is that Haye just isn't tough enough to last any era prior to 2004.

 

I think this is bull**** tbh

Marciano was 180lb, and he fought mostly guys under 200lb.

If Haye can wobble a 320lb cinder block head like Valuev and wrestle and maul with a 250lb chisora i think 180lb Marciano would be "bothered" by his power

For reference, here's Marciano with Ali, who is very simmilar in size to Haye, next to Haye with Valuev

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He was a great cruiser but im no where near convinced hes a great HW.
He hasnt really beaten anyone of real worth and against the best (klit) he hardly won a round.

 

He wasn't even a great cruiser TBH.

He had some good wins, one very good one over Mormeck.

Nothing to wank over.

 

Haye just KO'd a better, similar fighter in Chisora. When has Arreola displayed the necessary skills needed to beat Haye?

 

Unfortunately I kinda agree with you. It's only due to the division's relatively short history that he merits a mention.

He should've stayed at the weight a little longer imo. He would've beaten Cunningham, and would've been only the third man in history to have held all four major belts at the same time. And by then the likes of Adamek would've emerged and he would've had a few more challenges to have seen off. Shame.

 

You make no valid point here. Marciano never fought Ali, and Haye beat the bigger Valuev. My point was that size is not always better, Athleticism is. For the record, Marciano looks in better condition than Ali in your picture. You contradict your own point.