David Haye And His Fragile Glass Jaw

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  1. RUSKULL

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    :huh Seriously :rofl
     
  2. RUSKULL

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    Complete bull****.

    Chag used a very high guard, nice head movement, a decent jab & he's a southpaw but Klitschko still nailed him.

    !. Haye doesn't have a high guard, in fact he carries his left hand very low. That's suicide vs. a big jabber with a powerful right hand.

    2. Haye rarely moves his head so he'll be taking big shots & early.

    3. Haye isn't a southpaw so look for Wlad to utilize the left hook & hook off the jab. Klitschko's destruction of Haye won't be nearly as awkward and he'll be able to use a greater variety of punches.

    4. Haye throws looping haymakers that a seasoned boxer like Wlad will see coming so he can counter them.
     
  3. RUSKULL

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    I'm sure Wlad won't have any trouble seeing the looping, desperate punches that Davey throws.
     
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    You keep telling yourself that. Fact is Wladimir fought a mediocre fighter last night who has barely been active the last few fears. Thompson put up a much better showing, who was capable of beating Wladimir to the punch, push him back, and negate that jab with his own. Many observers noted (boxing experts, not internet nutswingers as yourself) the outcome likely would have been very different if Thompson wasn't a light-hitting heavyweight.

    You can bet your ass Wlad would be definitely afraid of Hayes' power, especially considering he knows how fast he can throw his punches. I saw the fight yesterday and saw how open Wlad would be to a correctly timed, devastating quick counter left hook to the jaw every time he threw/pawed a left jab. It's what makes me think how Tyson/Joe Frazier/sonny liston/ernie shavers/Gerry Cooney (yes deliberately mentioning smaller fighters) would obliterate this man easily in one round. Holyfield would have gotten the job done as well within 3. Perhaps even lesser fighters such as Bert Cooper, Tommy Morrison. Perhaps even lesser fighters such as Corrie Sanders...wait :lol:

    Chagaev did better than Haye would have last night? Any boxing enthusiast without the chains of bias would clearly see that is not the case. Unfortunately, this forum is filled with nutswingers left and right.
     
  5. RUSKULL

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    Because it was a flash knockdown & Chagaev has a good chin?
     
  6. 196osh

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    This is the only part of the post I disagree with.

    Haye if you watch more of his fights other than the Barrett fight, Haye is actually a very good boxer. Who can throw very crisp counters.

    Other than that Wlad will stop Haye, the left hook will be a major factor imo.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    I wonder if Wlad could take one of Haye's combinations??
     
  8. RUSKULL

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    You're stealing my lines ***** lips.

    If you really believe what you wrote there I have no help for you. All those guys would beat Wlad in 1 round? Puff, puff, pass dude................you've had enough. :rasta
     
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    Haye can throw straight rights too and he has a decent jab, although not on the level of Wladimir's.

    The point is when Wlad stars landing that jab on Haye David will become desperate and that's when he starts swinging for the fences. Those types of punches are easy to counter & Haye doesn't have the chin that Chagaev has. If you do that math you'd see that Haye has less of a chance than Chag had last night & he'd likely have been KO'd in the 2nd round.
     
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    In my past posts about the Wlad vs. Haye matchup I also thought the left hook off the jab would start the beginnning of the end for David Haye. That punch didn't work too well for Wlad last night because Chag is a lefty with a very high guard.
     
  11. 196osh

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    Haye is more likley to get sparked out early, and in a spectacular fashion.

    But he has the tools to hurt Wlad more, Chags only chance was to get inside and rough Wlad up, he couldnt get pased the jab. So he had no chance.

    Haye could counter Wlad over the jab effectivly because he has decent reach and very good handspeed.

    Thats why I think Wlad will be working on hooking off the jab to catch Haye countering.

    Wlad Haye is 75/25% Wlad or more.
     
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    OK so let's just be clear here....

    ...you believe that Wladimir will walk away unscathed from a perfectly timed, crunching left hook counter to his jaw (by Tyson/Shavers/Liston/Cooney), after he throws a pawing left jab?

    Answer that question to this board. Then we'll see who's really smoking something.
     
  13. RUSKULL

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    I agree. Haye has 25% chance or less. This current version of Wlad hardly takes any punches at all.
     
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    You really think Gerry Cooney is on Wlad's level? Have you ever seen the size difference of Tyson standing next to either Klitschko? How much do you think Liston would want to take another dive? Shavers? Not on Wlad's skill level although he had some serious power.................
     
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    You did not answer my question.