David HAYE/Derrick CHISORA & Amir KHAN/Danny GARCIA RbR!!!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Jul 14, 2012.


  1. gashalasha7

    gashalasha7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's thick.

    And I mean that. He has bags of ability but uses it in the wrong way. Described himself as a superstar before the fight.

    I'll support him as he's a Brit. But you have to question who he has around him. His family are arrogant and Roach. Needs someone to read him the riot act and speak some home truths.

    Send Richie Davies in.
     
  2. sud2002

    sud2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just step upto welterwight and throw him in the lions den like they did with Ortiz, who know's he might come up trumps and his career will be right on track!

    But poor ring intelligence from Khan and how much durable is his chin really (or are we underestimating Garcia's power?)!
     
  3. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    so much was on stake..

    khan saw the blood and wanted to go for the kill, bad mistake. Garcia was still strong and accurate.
    before the knock down, he was in and out with the guard up..looking good.

    I truly feel this is the end of his career.
     
  4. Abertawe

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    I'd send him to Germany, only chance he has is to be drilled major negative.
     
  5. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Khan will need to descale his expectations, accept he'll never be a P4P title holder but aim for more realistic targets such as becoming a two weight world champion.

    His style is speed orientated, Roach has used his main attributes and rather then mold a pro style over his years of work with Khan he looked to use this and maintain Khan's amateur style. I can partly understand this, Maybe Freddie felt Khan couldn't afford to stand his ground as much and needed to fight in such a fashion.

    My issue with Roach's work is the lack of development in aspects of fights, I just haven't seen a development in Khan for a long while. It's pretty much what you see is what your gonna get. Khan has to share a portion of blame as the fighter obviously, mentality in fights has been all wrong at times.

    Khan's major problem is that he's in love with his speed, like Donaire is with his power at the moment. Khan seemed to feel this was what set him apart from the rest but as my boy Roe said to me ''Timing always beats speed'' and tonight someone bothered to gauge his speed early and then set to work. Garcia is the first fighter who boxed with Khan successfully early. Not winning rounds, but gauging his speed, suffocating success and seeing openings.

    Khan's problem is when he misses he has not inbuilt defence, i think Roach could of changed this overtime but Harrison has to take blame from Khan's early pro days for bad habits as well as Khan's S&C work around that time which seemed to make him into a robot. When fighters miss, they for the most part have a instinctive defence but Khan seems to come in square of the shoulder with both hands in transition and leaves a massive target and he was made to pay dearly tonight.

    Khan can still achieve good things, I felt for him as he sat on stool i'm not his biggest fan but i respect his achievements and his heart is brilliant. P4P worthy! but there's been a lot of bad habits. Can another trainer change anything i'm not sure but i think maybe a meeting with Freddy needs to be had. And sensible match making to get him back on the road.
     
  6. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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  7. lolercakes

    lolercakes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Khan is like theo walcott has speed but no brains :/.
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Yeah we were all singing Cheerio as he went. Pillock.
     
  9. ShaneTheSherrif

    ShaneTheSherrif Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know why Khan wants to stand and trade everytime, must drive Freddie Roach absolutely mad. He started off so well but you just knew he would end up in a brawl at some point. It's hard to feel sorry for him as he has so much boxing skill but no brain whatsoever.

    It's **** or bust time now - move up to 147, fight Brook and take it from there. Full credit to Garcia, he can really bang. He said he would KO Khan and he did. His Dad came accross much better in the post fight interview aswell!

    I wonder if Freddie might think about calling it a day soon. That's both his top fighters beaten within a month. His Parkinson's seems to be getting worse aswell.
     
  10. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I laughed hard reading this :lol::lol:
     
  11. boxfanlut

    boxfanlut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd says the same thing, its looks diff on the outside
     
  12. Its me you see

    Its me you see Member Full Member

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    Great analysis there Skills,ever thought of working as a boxing writer?
    I for one enjoy your posts.
     
  13. Its me you see

    Its me you see Member Full Member

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    Garcia is clever. He knew Khan could be pride manipulated and he drew him straight into that left hook.
    I was really cheering Khan to carry on, once the ref continued. As i felt Khan showed great heart after the 1st K.D.
    However the ref did give Khan way too long on the 1st count and Khan couldnt even reply to say he was ok and fit to fight.
    Khan is a top fighter but he really needs to work on the things he does wrong.An obvious statement but there just has been no evidence to show him getting better.
    When i first heard of this fight i did say to friends i can see Garcia troubling Khan but i never thought hed do it so well!
     
  14. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Gutted, but this is boxing. I snoozed off before the fight but heard what happened. Don't think I'll be watching that anytime soon. Amir unfortunately, does not have a world class boxing brain and like I said to people, this is a hard fight and Garcia is a huge puncher. Time for Amir to rest and rebuild. I'm proud of him as a fan for him to come where he has in this sport.
     
  15. biglemon

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    As a fan where do you want to see him go from here?