David Haye didn't do all that bad.

I've been called a Klit- hater because, I tell it how it is, and today's HWs just aren't any good. That being said Haye talked alot of stuff and than went out and fought a terrible fight, unlike most of the guys Wlad beat Haye actually had the physical tools to beat him but just wasn't willing to work to set up his shots, he only looked for 1 shot, the whole fight. The fight almost looked like Vitali vs Sanders, where Sanders just looked for the one shot, difference being Haye wasn't old or out of shape. This fight was more about what Haye didn't do, as opposed to what Wlad did.

As for Wlad he was tentative (Haye was too) showed no inside game, never made Haye pay for lunging at him but showed he could beat a fast puncher, he fought smart with poise and he was disciplined. He had a guy with longer arms and faster hands lunge at him all night and he kept composed the whole night, a far cry from what happened with lesser who could punch, IMO I still rank him below the top 10 ATGs, BUT Wlad proved something tonight.

 

I agree with many posts. I am very surprised Haye last 12 rounds and appeared to take some shots.

So, so many people said he was going to get knocked out.

 

As bad as Haye fought it was still better, than the last 12 fighters or so Wlad beat, which is saying something.

 

Wlad didn't go for the KO, IMO he could've got it but he would've had to risk getting KO'd himself, he made the right choice.

 

I beg to differ......Sam Peter and Tony Thompson just to name two, made better efforts and used their stenghths alot better than Haye did.


The dissapointment is that Haye was all talk and no substance. Unlike any of Wlad's opponents, Haye talked a big fight but was too scared to even attempt to make good on his talk.

Most dogs that do alot of barking, dont bite.

 

Why would a rematch be needed. Haye got dominated offensively. Its clear to me Haye is not a competent technical fighter. His offense consists of single looping, telegraphed shots and he cant put anything together in bunches. Haye was and will always be a very spotty offensive fighter that will always have to pray for a knockout against very good competition, especially fighters who throw in good volume. The rematch would be more of the same, again, with the slight possibility of Haye stopping Wlad. A rematch is simply not warranted. This fight was just not close or enjoyable enough.

 

I think that says it all.

 

Yeah he really did not all things considered. He lasted the distance and showed better defense and toughness than most expected. People are comparing it to how he talked and are dissapointed but the performance itself was better than most heavyweights do. He will be underrated after this.

 

Peter i the first fight did well but Wlad froze and he still lost, in the 2nd fight he got raped, as for Thompson he was never a threat to Wlad at all, I do agree that Haye could've done better though.

 

Doesnt change the fact that Haye was pathetic. The moron thought he could do all that he did against Valuev to Wlad.atsch:rofl

He couldnt even admit defeat after the fight, and bitched about his toe...

 

Exactly. How in the world people can support his effort is amazing.

Has boxing really fallen this far, where a guy with a horrible game plan who never really tried to win a fight is being supported. The guy made 20M+ and this is what he produced?

Sad for the heavyweight division and sad that boxing fans expect so little.

 

Rofl dude, it's as clear as day that his tactic was to knock Wlad out. And he was trying to do so all night. What were you thinking, that he was going to outbox Wlad by throwing 5 punch combinations? :nut

 

I think all this dissapoinment comes from people who bought into this "saviour" Hype and Overrated Haye Pre-fight. Now it pays back. Haye was never a guy to outbox Wlad he tried to knock him out as much as he could on a "normal" mode, not "berserk" or kamikazze" like some here think he should. Even tho he did hit Wlad flush a few times it didnt happen. 2bad lets move on.

 

I thought Freddie Roach made a good analysis of what Haye needed to do to beat Wlad.
Roach actually gave Haye a good chance to beat Wlad.

Roach's analysis was for Haye to start out quickly, putting the pressure on Wlad by throwing lots of punches.

When you have a quickness and speed advantage, you dont attempt to make a chess game out of it by fighting at distance trying box a much bigger fighter of height and reach.


I picked Wlad to beat Haye by shutout because I did'nt believe Haye had the tools or the know how to do what Roach was suggesting.

.......in any regards, my point is that Haye did have advantages he could have used to his benefit but he just never attempted them.

 

No lets not move on. This fight happened just hours ago, thats what this forum is for, to talk boxing.:deal