David Haye- Heavyweight Miguel Cotto

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  1. Bonavena25

    Bonavena25 Vamos! Full Member

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    When Cotto fought Mosley everyone was impressed by Cotto's newfound ability to fight on the back foot and use his boxing skills. I wasn't. I thought he looked vulnerable and was to slow to get out of the 'pocket'. Thus it was no surprise when Margarito walked him down and Cotto was unable to escape for the full twelve.

    I see the same sort of scenario with David Haye. Against Barrett on Saturday his footwork seemed slow and plodding. He allowed himself to get penned back into situations that Cotto did versus Mosely.

    He managed to evade Barrett's best punches on Saturday but I see big problems down the road for Haye if takes so long to leave the pocket and spin away from opponents.

    Of course, no heavyweight fights like Margarito so there is a possibility he won't get exposed and be able to continue planting his feet without getting sparked. However, he seems extremely open to a Klitschko right hand hammer and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he got knocked out.

    He needs to improve his footwork and elusiveness if he really has designs on being heavyweight champion.
     
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  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm nah I dont see it, Haye let him take the centre of the ring because every time he hit him, Monte fell over.

    Haye is vunreble though that is obvious, his defence is slack and doesnt have a chin, but he fights aggressively regardless and take anyone out with either hand.

    Heavyweight Nigel Benn.
     
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  3. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not even close to the same styles.
     
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  4. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, but both strengths and weaknesses are the same.
     
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  5. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    I only see power as similarities, to be honest.
    Chin department I rate Benn as solid, and David as fragile.

    Benns greatest attribute was that, well.. plain and simple... he was a BAD Mother f'er. :yikes
     
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  6. RL_GMA

    RL_GMA New Member Full Member

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    Can't compare the two

    Cotto is a lot more versatile than Haye at this point and we have yet to see Haye in a big fight to see how he adjusts in tough situations.

    But both guys fight totally different
     
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  7. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto is a vastly superior boxer, in every respect.
     
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  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    then who is his margorito? is it arreola?

    nope. I think haye would beat him.

    i think him and WK is 70-30 in favour of WK.
     
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  9. redmond22588

    redmond22588 Blood and Guts Full Member

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    haye is no cotto no end o story lol
     
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  10. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yikes holy ****! we agree on something!!! :good
     
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  11. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so you mean haye will win the wba world heavyweight title and beat a slew of fighters he's suposed to lose agianst .. fight a tooth and nail battle with a grizzled vet people refused to fight and come back to fight for another title?? you mean like cotto in that kinda way??/
     
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  12. yale

    yale Active Member Full Member

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    isn't it odd how he beat Barrett so easily and yet most people, myself included saw how vulnerable he looked.
     
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  13. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah but even if he did beat monte... cliff couser beat him too didnt he?
     
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  14. younghypnotiq

    younghypnotiq Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and didnt wlad beat a prime time verson of monte without looking vurnerable at all?
     
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  15. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    I didn't read the thread, but did you compare Cotto vs. Mosley to Haye vs. Barett?
     
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