David Haye is going to destroy Wlad

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  1. 'el nino'

    'el nino' Active Member Full Member

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    Who necks!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. Peter Brit

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    Wladimir is not quick. he appears quick because often his jab travels less than 18 inches. He jabs off the front foot and gets his power from there. The power only exists 6 inches either side of his front foot. A nightmare even with a high guard if you stand in front of him.

    Go a foot to his left it has no power, go to his right he can hook you with his left

    or cross with the right.

    Second point rewatch Hayes one-two he dropped ruiz with. Play any version of wladimir one-two (left jab, right cross). Haye is at least twice as fast. Wladimir throws the right very well and generates great power but it is not super quick.

    His speed is decent, not quick.

    Haye got away with wild punching at cruiserweight because he is so quick. Nobody with average speed would hit a fly with them because they are so telegraphed.

    Fast forward to the ruiz fight. When haye starts to gas, Booth tells him to jab and not throw power punches every shot, just concentrate on being quick. All of a sudden Haye's stamina problem vanishes as does the wild punching. Suddenly he is connecting again against ruiz, but not just connecting the power comes out and Ruiz is done.

    The blueprint to fix Hayes worsed vices is in the Ruiz fight.

    Wladimir will try to keep his left foot outside of hayes. If he fails to keep it there he will get caught. If haye goes left Wladimir will have to reset his feet, not fire his jab 18 inches. Wladimir is slow at resetting his feet and tends to go backwards to get out of range. He can not generate power in his jab going backwards. He only throws the right when he is comfortable.

    Get outside Wladimir jab and he is an easy target unable and unwilling to throw punches.

    Stewart loves Wladimir's ability to position himself exactly where instructed, but he can not make those feet quicker, or change his fighters instinct.

    Wladimir is an easy meal for the right fighter. Imagine Wladimir against a heavyweight Hopkins or a Leonard, a Hagler. You would not even need a fast version, just the boxing brain. Holyfield before he got old would have chewed Wladimir up.

    Peters, Chageav, Sultan, Chambers are all under 6'1, forget the boxing rec crap. They all stand infront of you. Then we have the old Rahman, Austen.

    Brewster was more brawn than brains and certainly not a slick boxer.

    Sanders could punch, but again he is no slick boxer.

    None of these guys had smart feet and movement, hence Stewarts comments about how poor heavyweight boxers are these days.

    Thompson and Brock I do not know.

    It is not Wladimir is good, it is heavyweight fighters can not boxer and do not learn their craft these days. Wladimir I would class as faster than average for heavyweight.

    Aerola strangely if they stuck a boxing brain in his head and teach him lateral movement I believe would be fast enough to beat Wladimir.

    He like Peter paid the price of a crap division. Never got in shape or learnt to box properly starting at 29 is to late.

    What i find really sad is posters on here claiming Wladimir is to big for the likes of Holmes and picking fighters based on size not skill. Wladimir of now would have been destroyed in the 90's, 80's, 70's and the 60's.
     
  3. Scottish

    Scottish Khan(t) take a punch Full Member

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    Its gonna be like the matrix in there, Wlad is going to be moving in slow motion for Haye, Haye just has to pick which punch he wants to take him out with.
     
  4. klimting

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    **** there's some bold statements here. i couldnt give a **** who wins, i just pray its not another h'weight snooze fest. wouldnt it be nice to have a proper hw clash that is a foty candidate for once?
     
  5. boxexpert

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    i`d give 50:50.
    I personally give Haye the win by KO in round 5 or 6.

    Whoever lands his bomb first,wins. Haye being the quicker fighter,will take this advantage
     
  6. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm we'll soon see guys and the talking will stop...err maybe no it wont actually! :lol: It never will...no matter what the outcome. I just hope for a good exciting fight. Haye certainly promises to make it this way...and I hope he's good to his word and not playing chicken or the track n field ala vs SNV. And I hope Wlad doesnt blow him out in 1 or 2 rounds and make this a huge mismatch. I wanna see this fight live up to the hype..but fear it might be a huge letdown. Hope i'm wrong on that!!

    Watching how tentative Haye was against Fraudley in the 1st 2 rounds makes me think he's gonna be even more so against Wlad who is better/faster/stronger/more skilled. Like I said though...hope Hayes talk of a war is gonna be the case...just not convinced. Talk is one thing..doing it is quite something else!
     
  7. deaman

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    Ditto, Sir :good
     
  8. Flexe

    Flexe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bump.

    What a fool.
     
  9. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    british mama *****
     
  12. sofanii

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    :lol: Pathetic....
     
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    We are waiting for you new threads and predictions.