david haye is gonna beat both kilts watch this

Haye did not proof he pulls out for medical reason.

Injuries happens. But after all his bul**** talk, Haye should have shown his medical documents. He can be lucky that Wladimir did not take him to court.

 

But nobody did, jisi. :deal

And all this from someone who still questions if Haye hurt his hand against Valuev, after seeing a video of the proof. :rofl

Sorry jisi, but your opinion means as much to me as a fart in the wind.

 

injuries happen? yes, but four times, and four different injuries? that's pushing it. i think it's bullucks. i think vitali did get some of the injuries maybe with the knee injury, but to get so many injuries, and all different injuries aswell, i think that's either very bad luck, or lies.. i'm picking the lies on that one. haye showed his hand, and you could tell it was a bit damaged. personally, i don't think it was broken, but you could tell it was bruised, and a bit swollen. fighting a guy who outweighs you by a hundred lbs, you don't want a damaged hand, that's for sure.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/meehan-lands-shot-at-the-title-20100220-omp1.html

sorry old news

 

I take it you didn't actually watch the fight.
Haye basically jabbed his way to UD; it was an excercise at attempting to get 12 rounds under his belt, which he did.
He was actually booed by the crowd throughout the fight.

 

did he prove it....NO!!!!..then we ALL have the right to speculate. I never said it was fact.... I have always said "in my opinion"

do I have to type "In my opinion" everytime I type something:roll:

 

I love the Haye fans mentality of "well fighter X did it, so its ok if Haye did"

the old 2 wrongs make a right I guess.

NO I dont agree with what Vitali did in that case (he should have stepped aside earlier,) ......just like I dont agree with what Haye did.

IMO:good Haye lied about the injury to get out of the fight...for either money or didnt want the fight

 

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And again

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Haye was an exciting CW. But he won't be the same fighter at HW. He already was very cautious of Valuev's non-existing power. Imagine if he gets in the ring with a real puncher like Wlad or Arreola.

 

I have been saying the same thing but the Hayelords will not listen. Haye has yet to fight a true Heavyweight power puncher and he gets Ruiz next who has one proper legit KO in 10 years.

Honestly I think Haye is waiting for Vitali to get 'old' before he fights him and I do not think he wants to fight Wlad at all. I believe Haye is waiting for either brother to get beat so he can say "see I really did not need to fight them anyway".

Either way Haye can't keep fighting the John Ruiz's of the Heavyweight Division. Dan Rafael said Haye is trying to negotiate a fight with Hopkins next if they both win their fights. That is disgraceful.

 

Nah! Soon Haye must fight Helenius and he will be lost his belt for surely. Not more than 1 year left..

 

I'd like a bit of perspective from you guys regarding the 2 ATG hw's of the last 20 years, Lewis and Holyfield.

Lennox Lewis - Won the WBC title from Tucker mid 93, it was six years and 12 fights before he fought the other main man in the division, Holyfield.

Evander Holyfield - Steps upto Heavyweight mid 88. Fights Douglas over two years and 6 fights later for the crown. Two years before he faces Bowe, just under 9 years before facing the other main man Lewis from when he won the title.

The point I'm making is that not every fighter, even ATG's, go for the best opponent straight away.

I said months ago the smart move for Haye would be to win the title, then have 3-4 defences, grow into the weight better, then go for the Klitschkos, and I believe this is what he will do.

Calling out the Klitschko's was a ****ing FANTASTIC thing for Haye to do from a business point of view, gets his name in the papers, raises his profile, (We're here talking about him aren't we:deal).

An even better buisness move was choosing Valuev.
Haye knows the risk/reward balance at this stage in his career.
Taking the Klitschko's for what they were offering would be crazy, ****ING CRAZY, and if you think he was a *****, well.....

The risk/reward factor was crap, if he got beat (which I believe he would), then he moves waaaaay back down the pay-scale ladder and for what, £250,000??? Taxman/promoters cut etc etc would have left him with around £100,000!!! Hell I earn just short of that in a year and I'm not putting my life on the line fighting a monster.

If you would take a £250,000 Klitschko options fight over the £4,000,000 he made against Valuev you are a mug.:deal

So to summerise.

Could have dominated the CW's for the rest of his career and never taken a risk. One defence later he steps up into a divison dominated by two great fighters, makes a lot of noise, gets recognition, the kind of publicity money can't buy, wins a legit HW title on his 3rd fight at weight, will be tested against Ruiz, after that who knows...

You call the above a *****?????

 

I don't think so. After Ruiz he'll have to fight Valuev again. Then Chagaev/Meehan, then possibly Lyakhovich. He'll be trapped in this WBA triangle forever...

 

Everything is possible..Sauerland has power..Valuev is already " beat " up by Helenius, in sparring. Helenius is next big dog..

 

Hey, Hopkins is 27 and in his prime !

We're talking this Hopkins, right ?

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