David Haye is he done or can he comeback ?

This. Haye wasted almost four years of his prime not fighting. Unlike Ortiz and Povetkin Haye's most important aspect about him is his speed, which isn't coming back. It's also going to be hard for him to shake the ring rust, since Haye even now isn't very active.

 

i Heard hes going into male porn

oh yeah

 

He went to Mykonos last week with Sol Campbell. I am not sure what Campbells lover Lennox Lewis thinks about that...

 

In todays wasteland of aged heavyweights who avoid any significant fights, he's perfectly positioned

 

I m not sure why its so difficult to understand with haye. I get people dont like him but its getting to the stage the hates making people refuse to understand things.

Haye was injured with pretty much a career ending injury. Hence the reason for his retirement and four years out. Its not like he just said f×ck it i m not fighting again because i like nightclubs.

Regarding the 2 comeback fights. Haye is his own promoter. The difficult thing with that is...its fine when he was at the top but 4 years later he wasnt going to make quite the same kind of money/interest he once had.

His comeback fights weren,t generating huge money. He was putting on his own show...so obviously had a budget. The truth is no one serious is fighting haye unless there paid a lot of money for it. Money these shows weren,t going to generate. Hence the reason he got two guys in with respectable records probably for cheap.

Think haye made about a million for the show. Who could he have got for that budget. Not much. Bearing in mind he wants paid himself and anyone that knows their fighting haye will probably add at least a good couple of hundred thousand onto their normal purse. Thats the reality of it.

He should have probably signed with hearn for a few fight deal then when his name was big enough again then went solo when it was time. But at the same time it got his rankings up. Got the cobwebs off etc and got his name back out there while staying as his own promoter. Wasnt the end of the world.

Always feel anyway its the biggest mistake guys make when they come back...they go in too deep too soon. The only really succesful comeback after years out i can remember that went on for years was george foremann. He done it the right way and it paid off in the end. They all think their the same guy that left the sport...usually to their downfall.

 

I think he has enough left and I would pick hAye to beat everyone but Joshua and (Ortiz?)...


even at this stage of his game, if he comes in prepared and well-trained, I would not bet against him

 

God, it's crazy how he gets unreasonably hyped. One guy compared him to Vitali?! Vitali would deserve to be ranked #2 if he came back, because he was an atg that retired on a win. Haye was never remotely at that level, and he's lost. He was about at the level of Adamek, maybe slightly higher.

 

The guy hasn't beaten a contender in over 5 years, he's a smaller hw with a sytle that ages badly, and he's gained alot of wieght and had shoulder surgery, and lost to a poorly regarded cruiserweight, and his fans still think he should be in the top ten? Granted after wilder Pulev Povetkin Ortiz and Parker there is a big drop, bit people like Miller and Whyte, who have at least beaten someone relevant in the last year deserve that benefit of the doubt more than Haye. It would be like ranking Briggs in the top ten, since he technically hasn't lost since Vitali.

 

His style could be used as a sedative. I never want to see him in the ring again. He should train fighters and maybe become a promoter. But as far as being a fighter goes you can stick a fork in him because he is well and truly done.

 

Small frame + Broken body + multiple operations + explosive training methods with heavy weights which put huge stress on the body = disaster

 

He's done. I think his body is giving up on him and he has been so inactive and faced such horrible competition (during his last comeback stint) that I just don't favour him to do much now. He needs to just call it a day.

 

If you stuck a fork in him he'd probably injure his hamstring.

 

Stick a fork in him.

 

I'd honestly pick guys like Duhaupas and Breazeale to beat him now. I'm deadly serious. Basically anyone that can withstand his early efforts has a chance to beat him for the simple reason he can't go more than a few rounds without his body breaking down. He wasn't even doing particularly well with Bellew before the injury, basically very sloppy, predictable and sluggish, winging loopy telegraphed shots that Bellew could see coming a mile away. His only chance nowadays is against someone he can potentially land one or two good shots on and stop. Szpilka and Martin level guys. He doesn't have what it takes to go further than that.