David Haye Is Not The Answer

Chagaev tried to rush wlad and just missed. If you really compare Wlad from say 2004-2005 and now, you'll see two things big differences.

One, his footwork. Wlad moves a lot more chaning angles. Wlad used to be quite stationary. Today, he's on his toes most of the time.

Secondly, Wlad has mastered using that 'pawing' technique with his left just like lewis used to do. He uses it to measure with the right hand and blind his opponent at the same time. It allows him to control distance very well. Moreover, he also uses this half hook to move his opponents around.

It would be interesting to see an opponent come along like 2005 Peter to measure the differences but i don't think anyone around can do it. Arreola may have the style but he's even more hittable than Peter with a worse chin. He's also slower than Peter was in 2005 and can't close distance quick enough.

 

Peter was undefeated and survived the loss. Had Wlad lost to peter, he would have been written off for good.

There was a tremendous amount of pressure on Wlad to win that fight. We talked about it everyday in Camp... In camp we called the fight "DO or DIE"

 

You don't know boxing. You don't understand skills. Watch MMA.

 

correct again my friend:good

 

Funny statement coming from YOU:yep

 

Okay, but Peter was no Tyson. He was essentially the same fighter that we see today, but with a higher workrate.

 

Aren't you the guy that thought Chagaev was a reasonable opponent despite the fact that I gave a PINPOINT breakdown before the fight explaining Chagaev's limitations, and exactly how the fight would play out?

Peter is even less skilled than Chagaev, but at least he has an idea that in order to be Klitschko, you at least have to put yourself in a position to hit him.

Chagaev apparently doesn't understand this...

Like I said, great matchmaking for team Klitschko, but terrible fight for the public.

 

You have mentioned this many many times... you want a medal or something:roll:

Most people think Chagaev was/is a reasonable opponent and as a last minute replacement was great. After Haye pulled out, you tell me who would have been better then the WBA Champion as well as RING #3?:deal

 

And who would you consider a somebody outta that group?

Certainly not Ibriganov, aka the same guy that struggled and ran against an ancient Holyfield.

Rahman? Please...

Peter......well at least the mother ****er can take a hell of a lot of punishment, but damn....Vitali whupped the **** outta the guy, and Wlad barely escaped...

Chagaev....yeah okay......

I don't really blame Klitschko, but you can't be serious if you think he's had quality opposition because it's pretty obvious that he hasn't.

And you say he made all these improvements, yet why was he unable to knock out Ibriganov?

I see the same Klitschko...

 

Haye has fought 1 time in the last 15 months. Why doesn't he get his ass in the ring and prove his quality?

Im sorry - beating guys like barrett and cws isn't enough to convince me.

 

Yet he got a title fight against Bryd 6 months later, that don't sound like a written off fighter to me. Yes, if he would of got knocked out by Peter he probably would of retired, because that would of made 3 knockout losses in 3 years.

 

The proof is in the pudding. Haye is not truly confident about his abilities at heavyweight because if he was then he wouldn't be making excuses why he couldn't fight Wladimir and he would have fought Wladimir whether he was going to make one million dollars or five million dollars. Haye knows that he probably will have one fight to cash in on his heavyweight hype and he wants to get paid for all he is worth. Good for him, just don't blow smoke up everyone's as$ and act like you are doing this for the sport of boxing. Haye's fifteen minutes of heavyweight fame will end if he faces Arreola, Chambers, Povetkin, or even Brewster, much less the Klitschkos who are clearly the best heavyweights out there.

 

Hence why they call him 'CHEF' and not 'coach'. Dont need to know a lot about boxing to make chicken salad to be honest.

That fight was an absolute joke, but then so are most heavyweight fights and fighters these days. An out of shape, unskilled and crude slugger who AT BEST has a reasonable punch for a heavy KD'd the guy 3 times. In most other era's the Klit love them or hate them would be contenders, maybe Vitali would hold a belt at some point, but the division is that bad at the moment that they just look like gods against slower, smaller plodding heavies that have absolutely no rhythm or X-factor about them... at all, not even anything remotely decent that makes one stand out from the next. For all I know its the same guy in different constumes :roll: