David Haye Is Not The Answer

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Rico Spadafora, Nov 25, 2008.


  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    That would be a nice fight. But if David continues to carry his left low and Arreola even grazed him he`d hit the canvas faster than a Prime Tyson KO. Arreola is like watching a caveman. But the kid loves to fight and can bang. Haye is very talented but his defense is porous and he eats lead right hands. Theres only so far talent will carry you. Once he learns to keep his hands up im sure he`ll fair much better.
     
  2. slapsSOgood

    slapsSOgood Active Member Full Member

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    The reason nobody is currently thought to be able to beat VitKlit, is not because he's some sort of demi-god, it;s because the HW scene has been a pile of steaming dog **** since Lewis retired. Haye is bringing some excitement, attitude and humour to the division which nobody can fault him for.

    Considering the fact Haye acknowledged his own shortcomings on his own blog pre-Barrett I find it amusing you are giving us this revelation that Haye isn;t iron-jawed (I wouldnt say his is glass, he's never been KO'd).
     
  3. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Arreola is painfully slow, crude, one dimensional, and has no defense. Haye would destroy him, as would any decent HW when he steps up.

    Arreola is fighting one of the few Hw contenders that are worse than him. Arreola should beat Walker, he is just big and strong. Walker has no technique, speed, or skill to compete against a class opponent.
     
  4. Kojiro

    Kojiro Well-Known Member Full Member

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    David Haye is not the answer.

    He is THE question, though! A very interesting one at that.
     
  5. David_TheMan

    David_TheMan ESB Sage Full Member

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    To me the young HWs should be scrapping it out. I don't see why Haye won't fight Arreola if he wants a big publicity boost in the US. That seems like the way to get one of the Klitchkos, not knocking out nobodies, has beens, and never was.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Plausible but maybe improbable. :yep Haye is certainly skilled and way more talented than Arreola. BUT any fighter in the ilk of Sam Peter Arreola or Matt Skelton would all deal with Haye quickly. Haye is not a strong heavyweight and neither is he good enough defensively to avoid the bombs or brutal crude styles that those men possess. As soon as Haye gets roughed up he will wilt. Once his power doesnt bail him out he has no plan B. I Like Haye alot but the hype train must be put in perspective.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Thats how it used to be. I remember watching Byrd Tua and Ibeauchi scrap it out on there rise through the ranks. Haye doesnt need to fight a guy like Arreola and probably wont. His career as a boxer will be quite short as he`s not in it for the long hall.
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    youre the type of guy who walks into a room that has been freshly painted and point out the 1 spot that maybe has a flaw in it.....
    BFD if haye has went down before...so did michael moorer..he still go back up and licked alot of ass.
    i guess youre happier with arelloa , eddie chambers, povetkin, chagaev, and so on...:patsch
     
  9. Canadianfan

    Canadianfan Active Member Full Member

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    Let David Haye have his fun. I do think he loses to both Klitchkos, but if he loses in an entertaining fashion or wins, I'll be more than happy to watch a second fight.
     
  10. geppy

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    Trust me, you don't have anything to worry about from Arreola. The guy is slowest Hw prospect I have seen. He has poor boxing skills, no defense, is out of shape. He hasn't fought anyone.

    He will beat Walker though. Walker is slow as well, and is amatuerish. Walker squares up when he throws punches and gets hit a lot. Against a good boxer Arreola losses every round.
     
  11. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    He dealt with Chazz Witherspoon quite easily who was a noted amateur who is definitly more polished than Arreola. Im not disagreeing with you in regards to his sloppyness and resume. But iv watched all of Hayes fights and although he`s tremendously talented he can and will be bullied badly by guys like Chris. Haye backs up in straight lines and is very easy to find in the ring.He gets hit with lead right hands and has no inside fighting to speak of. He`s great when he tee`s off but he`s way to easy to break down defensively. Big heavys who stay in his grill will bully him and KO him quick.
     
  12. petrozza

    petrozza The Great Visionary Full Member

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    Really???? :lol::lol::lol: Is that why Wlad had both MSG and the Boardwalk Hall in Atlantic City full? 15,000 of "hardcore boxing aficionados"? :lol::lol:
     
  13. geppy

    geppy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have you ever seen Chazz Witherspoon fight as a pro? Watch his fight on the undercard of Berto vs Rivera. The fight was shown on ESPN. Even Atlas mentioned how poor he looked and that he needed a lot of work before even considering stepping up. Jason Estrada was the very best U.S Amatuer fighter, look at him , he is going nowhere.

    Watch Travis Walker's fights from Showbox, especially his SD against George Garcia, where the entire crowd was booing. Ignore these guys records ( they havent fought anyone) and just look at them, evaluate their skill and you will see that they just are not good Heavyweights.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Hey im not disagreeing. Iv seen Chazz fight. I didnt see anything that special. All im saying is Haye WILL struggle with the size weight and punching power as well as brusing styles of heavies like Arreola and co.
     
  15. Gsand

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    He wasn't put down. The ref didn't rule a knockdown and replays show the punch never touched him.

    That obviously leads to the fact that he wasnt hurt either.

    Inspite of that bit of your post being completely wrong I don't overly disagree with the rest.

    Haye might be able to take Wlad out early rounds but no chance with Vitali. No chance at all.

    Still, the build up will be amusing.