David Haye ko'd by Carl Thompson in 2004 = glass jaw?

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  1. JohnAkiBoa

    JohnAkiBoa Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dude, what is the limit. I believe you have not seen that much of Haye. He was at verge to be knocked out COLD against Lolenca Mock, Super Middleweight with not a **** punching power what so ever.
    I dont know it might be that Haye was little bit weight Drained in CW, we havent see him at Hw taking a punch:think
     
  2. madballster

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    Any decent Heavyweight with good handspeed has the potential to expose Haye as Haye leaves his guard down and is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open for counters. A prime Sanders could have been the ultimate poison for Haye. Good reach, fast hands, great accuracy plus he's a southpaw.

    Doesn't mean Haye can't get back up after being floored but his will is going to be tested many times. All this makes perfect sense as he is saying he doesn't want to play with fire and just wants a few big money fights and then wants to retire as soon as possible.
     
  3. Loufatski

    Loufatski Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes, but he's never been hit by the likes of bangers like Klits, Golota, etc..
     
  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I don't by this theory at all. Certainly you have to land a good punch, but if a guy has good punch resistance, he won't go down. It is a comibination of decent punch and shaky chin that results in KTFO

    Here is in equation form:

    Good Punch + Weak Chin = KTFO

    The theory that you seem to be advancing, the "that punch woulda KOd anybody" theory is utterly unprovable. And there are many guys who likely could take the punches that had Haye hit the deck. That's why his chin will be glass at HW. He knows it too - which is why he's being SO careful about who he fights.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    A prime Sanders would have probably have had an easy night KTFO'ing Haye.
     
  6. MickeyBlueEyess

    MickeyBlueEyess Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great post :good

    Someone with common sense :deal
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    This wasn't a case of getting KO'd, Haye ran out of gas hitting this guy. Give credit to Thompson rather than shitting on Haye.
     
  8. Stinky gloves

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    for me it was glass stamina
     
  9. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True. That said, when was the last time either Klitschko faced someone with Haye's power? Of all his wins, only 1 went to a decision- a fight he chose to take the distance to prove that he had the stamina for 12 rounds. Even as a cruiser, Haye hits much harder then any of Wlad's or Vitali's recent opponents:good.
     
  10. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a reason for the 't' though isn't there. He wasn't ko'd, he wasn't down and counted out is the point. He was stopped by Thompson, he wasn't knocked out.
     
  11. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you know that, because he stopped Bonin and Barrett?
     
  12. Back Hand Slap

    Back Hand Slap Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was more of a slip and you know it, then monte hit him on the floor! after that Haye Knocked him the **** out straight away. Your just Biased.:silly
     
  13. madballster

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    You're kidding right? We have no idea how hard Haye hits because he barely fought at HW so far. He might well be the hardest puncher at HW, but we simple haven't seen enough yet to make a decision IMO.

    Also, Haye uses incredible amounts of momentum to gain leverage as he loads up from way back for his big shots, something that he can do against small guys at CW who can't reach him. Any heavyweight with decent reach and handspeed will land 5 punches right on his chin while Haye is caught off balance with his awkward footwork.
     
  14. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, I am not 'kidding you'. What always seems to suprise me is that no-one actually seems to recognise the names on Haye's CV:good. As for 'small guys', Haye is a simila size to most other cruisers he fought:good.
     
  15. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    No he's not, Haye was considerd tall at CW.