David Haye ko'd by Carl Thompson in 2004 = glass jaw?

By who?

Enzo Macc 6'4''
Alexander Gurov 6'5.5''

And many other over 6 feet tall as well:good. Haye was no monster at CW. You're obviously going to keep disagreeing with me, which is fine, but at least you've done it in a dignified manner as opposed to others on the GF:thumbsup.

 

Go through all his CW opponents, not just Macca and Gurov. The large majority was shorter than Haye. 6"3 is above average in height for anybody at CW.

Again and I don't think you can argue against this:

1. Haye boxes open, swinging wildly to generate momentum
2. He has an average chin at best (note I didn't say glass chich which is BS)
3. He is used to fighting guys the same height or shorter
4. He will likely have problems with any tall HW that has a decent punch and good hand speed to counter him when he's caught off balance

Again, the glass chin accusations are BS, but I think he's extraordinarily vulnerable not because of his chin but because of his style.

 

id say up to 6ft 3 is the max optimum height for a cruiser imo, anything about that and u cant carry enough muscle (unless youve got tommy hearns chicken legs)

haye is a good size for a heavy i think, with his speed he should come in around 217-223

 

I don't dispute any of those arguements. I just find it a little contradictory of hard core Wlad fans, like this thread has shown yet again, when they start talking about a fighter's ability to take a punch:good. For the record, I'm with you- Haye has proven virtually nothing at HW. That said, he's still an exciting contender- much like Arreola and Chambers. The flaws in his technique also make him very exciting to watch, if you ask me. Haye might just get found out at HW but at least he's willing to stick it on the line to find out. Unfortunately, we won't find out immediately if he can beat a Klitschko, though:good.

 

Yes I agree. Exciting fighter, I despise the public persona (he could be the nicest guy in private for all I know) but he's just trying to do business I guess.

I don't think too many Wlad fans are trying to dispute Wlad's suspect chin. It's is fairly obvious. Just Wlad has perfected his ability to avoid punches, which is a big plus for him.