David Haye, please tell us why you turned down the Samuel Peter fight

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  1. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    David said he wanted to fight Wlad Klitschko as soon as possible, immediately, if possible, and in the meantime, the best available heavyweight, because, they're all a bunch of fat bums anyway. Wlad Klitschko told him he wasn't interested at this stage, but he got an offer from Peter, which he declined. He then said all the top guys were ducking him, but that he would not settle for anyone outside the top 10. He then ended up with this Monte guy. My question is, why did he decline the Peter fight, given his clearly stated intentions? It doesn't make sense. There must be a very good reason. What is it? David needs to answer this question.
     
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  2. Scar

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    He's just talking smack to promote his self to keep people tuned in for his next few fights before the big one is set. Don't take everything too seriously till he's officially ready.
     
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  3. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Well, if he does that, it's very disappointing, but I cannot believe it. I'd expect that from 99% of fighters out there, but not from David. It would certainly be out of character. So far, he's fought the best, took the hardest fights he could get and didn't make a step backwards. I have no problem with anyone going forward at a pace they feel confortable with, but why would David say he wanted the best he could get as soon as possible and then say no to Peter? I cannot believe it's this, not from David. There must be a reason he declined the fight, and we, his fans who believe in him and support him all the way, need to know.

    :good
     
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  4. TheGreat

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    Haye hasn't even fought yet at HW, once he gets used to the weight I'm sure he'll take care of business.
     
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  5. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    No, I don't, but there's a dozen or so fighters I truly believe in as people too and David Haye is one of them. It's not because I like them so much that I believe in them as people; it's because of the way they've acted in the past - they have a great track record of doing things the right way.

    This thing is out of character for David Haye, that's why I cannot brush it off. :conf
     
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  6. vonBanditos

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    I can't listen to any audio here, but I still haven't seen a good response to the question that has been posed many times in this thread - when was Haye supposed to fight Peter? Klitschko and Peter were in negotiations to see who would face Maskaev. Klitschko finally agreed to step aside so that he would face the winner. This talk of an offer doesn't make any sense. Peter had no choice but to fight Vitali.
     
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  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Presumably before Vitali was thrown by the WBC onto Peter. In the interview, this English promoter who used to promote Hayer and who knows what's going on said there was an offer. Then, this interviewer who knows everything that moves in British boxing confirmed it and said he thought Haye should have accepted! So...it looks like this offer was a legitimate offer and that it was declined. Why?
     
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  8. ThePlugInBabies

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    another point, when haye said top ten ranked i think it's pretty obvious given all the names that have been thrown about in regards to the november slot that he meant top 10 ranked with an ABC organization.
     
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  9. Decebal

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    As a Calzaghe fan, would you have been happy if post Kessler, Calzaghe had said he was looking to fight the best at LHW, called Hopkins out and then settled for Dean Francis, having declined a fight against Dawson, say? Well, I am a Haye fan and Haye is a much better man than Calzaghe, so just imagine how I feel.
     
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  10. ThePlugInBabies

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    joe calzaghe is 36 years old and in his twilight years looking to touch up a resume undeserving of his talents. secondly the move up in weight is much easier for joe physically, haye has had to get back in the gym and bulk himself up with muscle to something in the region of 230lb from 200lb-210lb.

    testing the waters makes much more sense for haye, the power of the shots landed at heavyweight are different gravy to cruiser. calzaghe didn't go up and think "**** this hopkins hits hard compared to eubank, lacy, kessler."
     
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  11. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I agree, and I have nothing against Haye or anyone else testing the waters or taking tune-ups or moving up slow, or what not. This isn't the point here, is it?
     
    Decebal, Oct 10, 2008
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  12. Scar

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    He doesn't need to tell you the reason, it's easy to predict. It's just too soon to take a fight with Peter. Why fight him now when he can fight him later for more money as he picks up a win or two in the division?, by winning he guarantees to be heard by the public therefore making the fight bigger later than now.

    It's a case of being too early when it can happen later for more money and a case of him needing more fights to be ready for a fight like that in the division. David might talk some trash but so what?, everyone does in the sport at some point and he's trying to make some money out of it which he deserves.
     
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  13. Decebal

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    :conf
     
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  14. vonBanditos

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    I just don't see how that's possible. Vitali as the champion emeritus, bull**** or not, was told that he had the right to fight for the title whenever he wanted. He announced his intent to come back and fight for the title last year. It took a while for them to come up with a agreement (ie, avoid purse bid) but there was never any question that Peter had to fight Vitali immediately after fighting Maskaev. He would have had to drop the belt to fight Haye. I'm not calling these guys liars - maybe I'm missing something - but this whole situation doesn't sound realistic.
     
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  15. Decebal

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    Haye needs to clear this matter up; too many people want to know why he declined what is taken to be a legitimate offer. :good
     
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