I'd be delighted to offer you any odds you like against that happening! And you may place any amount of £ you wish! No offence mate, but the word "Impossible" springs to mind!!
All three were world class on their day, but I do not believe that any of those guys would have defeated Vitali Kiltschko. The rest of the division YES!! Minus Wlad, who would have caused them all problems. But hey, that is just my opinion!
:good I appreciate that mate, just try to rise above it. Mind you, when I read some of the things people write I to find it difficult not to get "Revved up" but I usually just walk away from my lap-top!!.
:rofl:rofl:roflatschatsch Page was an out of shape coke head Dokes was a coke head Coetzee was a one armed fighter. The era these guys fought in was just as bad if not worse than what we have now. This is just stupid.
I think Haye may dodge Ruiz but for good reasons. Dump his WBA to fight Vitali after Johnson. Wlad's buzy with two mandatorys and cant fight til march. Vitali if he makes easy work of Johnson with no injurys or cuts gets a Haye fight. Haye dumps the belt lets Ruiz get it and gets the real fight for a more regarded belt. fighters lateley will dump belts to get bigger fights. Clottey dumped his IBF to fight Cotto. May not happen but to me this is the best possibel option for haye and Vitali. Wlad beats Pov and Chambers the 2 best guys without a belt on their waste. Vitali and Haye the 2 other titlists go at it. Then somebody has to go for Ruiz for the WBA. I personally dont care for Ruiz Haye. It would be an interesting but unecessary fight. The public does not want Haye in the ring with a guy who is not named Klitschko.
The 1980's guys would **** on most heavies in the division..... basically everyone outside of the Klitschko's...... maybe some others who measure up well H2H might succeed as well.
I only think Wlad or Haye have a chance against Vitali. The 1st fight is not happening. Haye could never beat Vitali but I think it is the only fight that makes any real success it would also be the best retirement option. Vitali stops Haye and retires what a better legacy cementing finish. The only better finish I could imagine would be him vs Valuev and have him drop him like a ton of bricks those Germans would go nuts I wonder what him hitting the mat would sound like. I honestly think the K Bros are the only guys who could TKO Nikolai. Haye also dug himself a hole with fans and press. If Haye does not dump the belt and fight Vitali or beat Ruiz and then fight Vitali his stock will go way down
It already has gone way down according to most boxing scribes. He should be ashamed of the way he's conducted himself over the past year...no one has forgotten about the decapitated heads on his shirt. Professionals don't carry on the way he did during the Wlad promotion. Yes, fighters engage somewhat during the promotion, but not like that...Haye's antics made B-hop look like Lucian Bute.
The decapitation shirts are bull****, just some publicity stunt. No reason to get annoyed over it. It's the constant non-stop trashtalk over the contracts, fight locations, career resumes and all other boxers while NOT delivering anything but a running show vs. the slowest title holder of all time in BRATWURST CITY infront of just 8,000 spectators is what makes it crappy to no end. Shut up, FIGHT a prime top heavy with more than 2 punches a round, in Madison Square Garden, THEN start talking.
I agree with you on the class and professionalism part. But I would hate if Vitali retired and Haye wound up never fighting Wlad. I'd prefer sombody shut him up. If Vitali retires without fighting Haye David will never let him retire in peace. He'll keep trying to get him in the ring. I dont think Vitali should give him any kind of satisfaction of a last laugh or any manipulated bragging rights. Somebody has to do it and I think it should be Vitali.
I don't have a problem with the t-shirts. Haye was just trying to generate interest and then he faked an injury to get out of the fight. What I do have a problem with is after months and months of talking trash about bringing 'excitement' and 'interest' back to the Heavyweight Division he puts on one of the most boring and disgraceful performances I have ever seen in my 26 years of watching the sport. Then after the fight he acts like he just beat Jack Dempsey. This after throwing 11.9 punches a round and literally running the whole fight. I think even Shannon Briggs throws more than 11.9 punches a round. Anyone who follows Boxing and knows what is going on knows Haye has no interest in facing either Klitschko brother. He has had 2 chances and backed out of both. He has another boring fight on the horizon with John Ruiz and despite what his nuthuggers say he is going to have to honor the rematch clause in the contract with Valuev. Nobody wants to see either of those fights.
i wish it would be at the hands of the Klitschkos as well, bro. But, I have a feeling it will have to be at the hands of a more unsuspecting opponent. i don't think haye has the brass to fight the real champs. But, that's just my opinion. i would love to see him fight a guy like Arreola, which Haye has stated is a fat, embarrassment to boxing. That fat, embarrassment has only one loss, like you, Haye. And that loss wasn't against journeyman...it was against the champ. No shame in that. i hope Haye has the brass to at least choose an opponent like an "Arreola"...that would be a very entertaining fight and good for the heavyweight division.