David Haye Video Update

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TeflonDom, Sep 1, 2010.


  1. mani0

    mani0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has Haye ever fought on HBO or Showtime.
     
  2. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Haye ain´t no Mayweather and Wlad surely is much more than Martinez...
     
  3. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The UK money is probably worth 3-4 times as much as the German money. And probably equates to about 60% of the entire TV money.

    The issue is, this money just wouldn't exist, if Haye wasn't in the ring
     
  4. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly... it's who generates the money not who is the champ that counts at the negotiating table
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All Haye wanted, was to seif there were any bigger offers from Germany. Unlike Klitschko, he isn't loyal to any TV station so I can understand that because he obviously wants to make as much as possible.

    If RTL offered the most money, the fight would be on.

    I can see it from both sides. The difference between what RTL offers and what a rival would offer, isn't huge and any loss of money would be replaced by HBO's involvement.

    That said, if Klitschko wants to be loyal to RTL, he should have all that money and let Haye have all the UK money.

    Both are at fault here because there are two options and neither are unfair.
     
  7. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only two tough fights he's ever had:

    1: He ducked the Sanders rematch 100%.

    2: He refused to rematch Peters until he was damn sure that he was finished.

    Wlad's reputation amazes me at times. Just the creation of a friendly media.

    He's considered one of the world's great cowards in the UK
     
  8. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think you just completely missed the point there bud. It's all about what fighter generates revenue... In a fight of this magnitude Haye would generate more through UK PPV than Wlad so deserves his 50-50 share as he is bringing most of the money.... get it?
     
  9. Jack

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    I agree but you're looking at it from how good they are. They will look at it at from a business view and then you can compare Haye and Mayweather, and Wlad and Martinez.

    The biggest draw deserves the biggest cut, regardless of ability. If Tyson returned for a fight with Vitali, you can guarantee he'd get well over 50%.
     
  10. MrWonderful

    MrWonderful Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree 100%

    If Klitschko is adament that he fights with RTL, no matter how much money it costs him, and states that Haye has no say whatsoever in how the German TV works, then he should just keep the German money all to himself, and give Haye the UK money.

    He won't do that though, as if he did that, Haye would make 3x as much from the fight as he does.

    My only comment on this fight, is basically, if either Wlad or Haye really wanted it, it would have happened a long time ago.
     
  11. MrWonderful

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    I may be wrong, but I'm sure Mayweather took 25% against Oscar, to make the fight work. He just wanted it that bad, as he knew it would make him.

    And I'm sure he also give Hatton all of the UK TV money, in their fight, to make the deal. Even though it basically lost him about $10 million.

    Floyd gets a raw deal at times. He tends to make major concessions to get fights done
     
  12. Jack

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    That's what's funny because if Wlad or Haye take a hit but win, they make back any money they lost many times over. They will be THE heavyweight champion and a star all over the world. Aywrather took less than he deserved but if he was picky and didn't accept, it would have cost him a lot more in the long run.
     
  13. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    But I just still don´t see that Haye is the biggest draw (outside the UK). I might be biased but you should think about the possibility that you see Haye from a UK view that might not be that objective...
     
  14. NoHomeJerome

    NoHomeJerome Boxing Junkie banned

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    Haye deserves nothing of the German TV money, likewise Wlad deserves nothing of the UK PPV money.

    Even Floyd didn't take any of Hattons UK PPV money.

    The 2nd offer is fair. If Wlad wanted to beat up Haye so bad, he would have accepted, simple.
     
  15. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well the point is that in the UK Haye will get big PPV numbers for this probably around 1 million which makes him more money than it does for the Klits on their RTL contract.

    Haye also brings with him the American interest which is more money and PPVs and american tv money.

    So yes even if the American tune in jsut to see Haye get knocked out he is the biggest draw as any fight without Haye has no American tv money