David Haye vs. Alexander Povetkin

Well, Thompson was able to withstand Haye's power, what makes you think that Povetking that has fought true HW's and never been hurt, cannnot?

While Povetking does not have the devastating power he is much more powerful than JMM(who KD Haye). In addition, he did have problems with a defensive minded fighter-Chambers. Haye is by no means is a defensive guru.

 

For the first time, I am looking at this match-up with slightly different eyes... Sasha was given the fast heavyweight intro that David would make the most of - Haye beats Mayfield ( who was a cruiser and fought Povetkin on the undercard of Maskaev-Okhello), Haye beats Donald in a ten rounder easy, and Haye surely beats Byrd and Chambers if he fights with homecrowd support like Povetkin had in Germany. Therefore, I can say that anyone who gives Povetkin a shot at Klitschko... has to consider Haye in the same magnitude. I give Haye a great chance of catching Povetkin cold and knock him out now, but that has to do mostly with the way Chambers found Povetkin with right hands and Haye's impressive wins against Mormeck and Macca.

 

no they wouldn't. he is very hard to land against. all of povetkins gaudy punch stats would mean nothing. Wlad is a big man who moves very well. He also uses his left hand very effectively to stop his opponent from rushing in now. Watch when Wlad backed up against sultan, then as sultan attacked wlad just stuck his left hand out against sultan's head to stop the rush. Wlad hasn't been hit by a meaningful punch in 2.5 years.

Haye has a puncher's chance. Povetkin has to pull a brewster. If you're gonna base wlad on 1 fight against sultan and berate him for his passive offense, notice his defense too. he would completely frustrate both povetkin and haye.

id take Povetkin late tko or on pts

 

Haye is more precise now and his timing is much better. He doesn't go crazy in there anymore. His speed and power and Povetkin's defence, which is not the best, would suggest to me he'd get his quite a bit flush on the chin...not as Chambers hit him, but HARD. He'd be forced to respect Haye's power and wouldn't wade in swarming as readily. Haye would land some more and I cannot see Povetkin taking him out in the meantime...Haye's chin is not that bad. In the end, I see Haye winning by stoppage.

If Povetkin's defence were (much) better and if he had a better jab and if he were a bit faster, then yeah...but at the moment, I'm going with Haye.:good

Anyway, let's not forget that Haye is a work in progress too...he'll get better too, just like Povetkin...

 

While he does not have a one punch power he is an accumulation dmage fighter ala Diaz. Moreover, the fact is that he holds victories over credible HW's while Haye has not even fought a HW yet (don't give me the Bonin ****).

 

Perhaps...

 

There is a possibility that Haye wins this by KO but I would favour Povetkin anyway. Haye's jab wasn't good enough to keep Fragomeni off. He isn't as skilled as many want him to be and his defence is not top level. Povetkin wins by TKO.

 

While you have your point, mine is that Haye is an absolute unproven commodity in HW, Povetkin is. Let Haye fight somebody a caliber of Brock before we can make any such conclusions of him beating Povetking, let alone KO him.

 

Yeah, sure...I was just having a go at a prediction. Haye won't be fighting someone as good as Povetkin straight away, so we'll have the opportunity to judge how he fares...:good

 

Haye would not beat Povetkin. Say what you will but Povetkin is a heavyweight with decent speed, a solid pressure style and a good mentality inside the ropes. Haye is a flashy brawler who will over time succumb to Povetkin. Especially considering Povetkin may drop him quite easily.

I also love how you people compare Waldo's speed to Fast Eddie. As if they are in the same league. Fast Eddie's punches make Waldo look like a robot. And that's a fact.

 

So now Brock who indeed ko'd only bums has more power than Povetkin? What is up with you people?

 

Povetkin has great workrate and puts too many shots together to hear the final bell and lose to Haye. But I have to say that it could not go twelve mainly because the Brit is far the better smooth operator and he could well use a lot of fast, effective countermoves on the Russian. Concerning Wlad, I don't think Haye can get inside his range without taking that spear-like powerjab above his low guard but he seems more willing to let his right hand go than Wlad... Again, Haye simply can't keep his feet so wide apart and so planted to the ground in the heavyweight division. He has to make some defensive adjustments and should maintain handspeed and body mobility.

 

How will losing to a fellow contender make one a fraud?

 

Haye should take maybe 4-5 fights @ HW before thinking of a major belt with a top HW.

 

That isn't Haye's style.

He'll fight Rahman and then look for a title eliminator straightaway I think.