David Haye vs. Joe Calzaghe

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  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Haye KO early. Haye packs a HW punch and is long with good timing and speed, just way too much power and size for the SMW-LHW sized Calzaghe, also quite an awful style for Calzaghe on top of it considering the length.
     
  3. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Haye is a cruiserweight now. Haye does have a suspect chin, if JC has any power left in his gloves - he could both rumble and crumble Haymaker. JCs chin is very good, but against a heavier opponent such as Haye, I don't know if it will be enough.

    Haye needs to prove more to me to make a sound judgement.
     
  4. ThePlugInBabies

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    haye is a heavyweight in cruiser clothing so to speak. once he is finished with mormeck he will jump up to heavy for good (maybe unless he gets a bout with enzo). he packs a heavyweights punch and has fantastic speed, he'd knock joe out, no questions asked.
     
  5. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Well a Super Middle didn't knock Haye down once.
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye's speed would vanish before your eyes against Calzaghe, but Haye should still win it against an old Calzaghe. perhaps. Or perhaps not.

    Would Calzaghe really do any worse than Fraga..whatever his name was?
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'd pick Haye by a KO.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At first I thought this thread was a bit of a joke. But the more you think about it, the more logic you apply, you realise that Calzaghe can infact win this barring a broken hand.

    Just look how Haye got on against past opposition. Now compare those opponents to Calzaghe.
     
  9. ThePlugInBabies

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    what opponenets are you referring to? out of hayes 19 wins, only one of his opponents has gone the distance with him.

    the guy punches extremely hard, calzaghe would not survive a haye onslaught.
     
  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3 out of his last 4 opponents.

    What makes you think Haye would get a chance to unleash an onslaught anyway? You really think 2 divisions up is too high for someone as brilliant as Calzaghe to dominate at?

    Wait until you've seen how Haye does against Mormeck (his first big test) before you come out with extremisms like "Haye beats Calzaghe".

    And look at the links between Calzaghe - Eubank - Thompson and Haye.

    Green Calzaghe killed slightly past prime Eubank.

    Blown-up past prime middleweight Eubank gave prime Thomson a great deal of trouble.

    Old man Thompson beat Haye - though Haye was clearly better - but it was far from a mistmatch.
     
  11. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    First we need to get by the fact we are comparing a guy has fought as high as 217 vs a guy who's highest weight ever was 172, 11 years ago.

    Then let's get by the point that Haye could never get down to a catch weight of say even 180, so it'd be Calzaghe having to come all the way up to Haye's weight.

    Let's also get by the fact we are comparing a very young, somewhat inexperienced guy against an aging champion who has beaten many good fighters and defended his title multiple times over the last 10 years.


    Wait, I can't get by all those things to even begin to breakdown a fight that isn't just implausible, but will never EVER happen.
     
  12. ThePlugInBabies

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    you fail to mention how 'green' haye was in that fight as well, he gave a good showing considering he was so inexperienced and up against such a quality operator. haye has learnt from his earlier errors and taken his career much more seriously now, that loss was a wake up call.

    joe outboxed eubank but hardly destroyed him, and joe was in major trouble in the last round, another round and eubank would have stopped calzaghe.
     
  13. Brickhaus

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    At cruiser? Haye by late KO. Calzaghe has never handled anything close to that kind of power before.
     
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  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Calzaghe is an infinitely better fighter than Haye however.;)