A prime Haye wins a decision over Josephine Parker. Haye didn’t have a very long prime as a HW due to injuries, so it’s worst pointing out that’s a prime Haye.
Haye would badly hurt Parker. Parker lacks the firepower or volume for me to see him keeping Haye honest.
Haye has to be the most overhyped heavyweight I’ve seen. He talked a good game but his heavyweight career consisted of wins over journeyman Monte Barrett, a shopworn John Ruiz, a very narrow pts win over an old Valuev , a stoppage over Chisora (who everyone beats) and a KO of Audrey Harrison (a joke). He then talked big and **** the bed against Klitschko, bottled it twice and never even fought Fury and got obliterated by Tony Bellew a career Lt Heavy-Cruiser. Parker isn’t that good but he’s at least willing to face stiff opposition, has a good chin and a willingness to dig in there when the chips are down, and shown guts and heart to rise off the floor and keep trying to win. That’s better than anything Haye ever showed at heavyweight and enough to get him the win here.
Perhaps he is, but you might want to watch Parker's two fights with an ageing Chisora, then look what Haye did to a prime Chisora. I always had my doubts about Haye, but I never questioned his power!
Haye hits harder. That’s about the crux of that and Parker battered Chisora in fight two anyway. Haye beat Chisora easier than Usyk did as well. Does that mean Parker beats him too? Of course not. When someone didn’t fall over and started to return fire Haye suddenly stopped looking that good. He bottled it against Thompson early in his career and didn’t even engage with Wlad after talking about annihilating him. He thought Bellew would be another easy mark but got exposed x2. Hayes record was ordinary at heavyweight but he’s continued to be ranked ridiculously highly at heavyweight to this day.
Parker is honestly pretty average, even though Haye wasn't great at heavy he should still have more than enough to better Parker. Wide decision.
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment of Haye. But Parker, in quieter fashion, was over-hyped to a certain extent, as well. Haye and Parker are not too dissimilar in that regard, though. As Haye was willing to get in the ring with Wlad; Parker was willing to do the same with Joshua. Both capitulated in their own way. Parker has been able to do a bit more, since Joshua. But then, Parker was younger, when he faced Joshua, than what Haye was when he faced Wlad. The bigger difference between them is that Parker is exactly the type of mediocre opponent that Haye would be up for - and, when Haye was in his pomp and confidently up for an opponent, it meant they were pretty much done for.
Never been terribly high on either of these guys and truthfully have a hard time gaging exactly how good they were. If forced to choose I’ll go with Parker as he at least spent his whole career at heavy. But I say that with no real conviction
I would say that Parker is more at the level of Chisora, than he is at the level of Usky. As for Haye I am aware of his limitations, but he should not be underestimated as a puncher.
I’m not disputing his power just his standing as a heavyweight and his reputation as a destroyer of fighters. He simply wasn’t that at heavyweight but in these fantasy match ups involving Haye at heavy he gets treated as such. It’s a falsehood.
You are three quarters right. His record at heavyweight was nothing spectacular. At cruiserweight he would fight a bear if it could make the limit. At heavyweight he became very cautious, and you get the idea the he knew something that we didn't. Even so, you might want to look at the other fighters that Chisora has fought over the course of his career, and what they could or couldn't do to him. That was the only time that Chisora ever got destroyed, and he has seriously pushed his luck against the competition as he got older.