Haye struggled with Fragomeni who is a warrior but couldnt crack an egg and Mormeck until Fragomeni gassed out and Mormeck quit Haye was close to get ko´d. How will Haye do if he takes on superior heavyweight versions of those like Arreola or Sam Peter?
iI'll think you'll find Fragomeni was taking a bit of a pasteing and his corner threw in the towel and the ref felt Mormeck wasn't fit to continue after been knocked down.
mormeck didnt quit he was knocked out,frag is a tough fighter ,but haye was draining himself to make the weight, wlad has been k/o 3 times!
I´m not going to take anything from Haye he beat them both in the end. Mormeck told the ref that he is not willing to continue didnt he? however it looked to me a bit like a kayo from bad acting but thats just an opinion and not the point this thread should hang on. Both gave Haye some tough fight and the fight with Mormeck was close until the end came and these HW guys are a lot stronger. Doesnt seem Hayes stamina has improved alot since went up to HW.
Don't think Haye would lose to Arreola other than with a 'lucky punch', I guess he will outpoint him. But I really think he would lose to Peter, on KO and early. He wouldn't fight them, they are both too young and too close to their primes.
I don't why i'm even bothering to reply to such an obvious piece of trolling, but just in case you were being serious watch the JMM kayo again - Mormeck get's up after 10-11 seconds. He probably should've been counted out (i'm allowing for the possibility that Mormeck might've risen earlier had Cavalleri's count been accurate).
The same goes with Adamek. You watch Adamek vs Arreola, then you watch Vitali versus Arreola. One was a major war which really was a close run thing, the other was a beatdown. Adamek would stand no chance versus Vitali. Or versus Wladimir. Haye would be no different, only thing really going for Haye versus the Klitschkos, especially Wladimir, is that he's really fast. Being so fast, he'd probably get some shots in, it's almost inevitable. I've got no doubt that Vitali would withstand Haye's punches. But Wlad... my thing with Wlad is that he went down against Peter and Haye's much faster. But still, Wlad is better than he was then, I'd still expect him to win, especially given that Haye to produce power has to pull and really has to put all his body into those shots. I doubt Wladimir would have much problems seeing those coming.
m8 either read the thread or stfu :deal Haye has often called those Klit victims disgraces but i´m not convinced that Haye can beat them so i started a thread about that.
hmmz not too many productive posts in this thread so far besides Robneys post what is close to what i´m thinking and PBFs ponder on the Klits and Adamek I think Haye can outbox Arreola too but i doubt he has the stamina to keep Arreola off him for 12 rounds and when it comes to toe to toe action i´d favor Arreola to score a knockout win also could imagine something similar to the Bute vs Andrade I ending. Peter will defo land with those overhands, Haye too often leaves his hands down and moves backwards in a straight line.. I hardly can see Haye winning those fights and i´d nearly rule out that he can dominate such guys.
an in shape and motivated peter will knock haye out. arreolla was never good and will be never good. haye would stop him. haye is a smart fighter, a lot of people forget that. wladimir klitschko is an A+ fighter vitali is an A+ fighter too haye is an A- fighter Peter in shape is a B fighter but way bigger then haye and with a great chin and big punching power. arreola even in shape would be a B- fighter
I understand that the fat mexican is recognized as some bum on here because of his recent loss but hes is still a overall superior warrior than Hayes CW victims were. Peter when he had been out shape would have lost to Adamek maybe as well. Arreola is a better finisher than Peter imo. However Peter might be an even more difficult style matchup for Haye..
