David haye vs robert helinuis right now who wins and why>>>????

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  1. anut

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  2. MattMattMatt

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    Helenius is just about the slowest active fighter in the world, Haye would have a field day, Robert would be not much more than a mobile punching bag. Haye could do what he wants (which may include ducking).
     
  3. Sakura

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    Helenius is not slow at all and his punching power is very good. Helenius KO
     
  4. MattMattMatt

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    His hand speed is ok, but he moves around the ring like he has lead weights in his boots. His defence is pretty poor too.
     
  5. Sakura

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    Of course he is not the most light feet, but his great dimension to give a lot of forgiveness and also his reflex are great
     
  6. Farmboxer

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    Almost anyone has the power to knock Haye out.
     
  7. Ilesey

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    Haye is too quick and hits too hard. Helenius is over-rated and people's hatred for Haye is clouding their judgement.
     
  8. Sakura

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    Haye's match against Helenius would be completely different than the Valuev fight. Helenius is a much better boxer, faster and harder puncher. Helenius chin is also good...maybe we will see that fight soon..provided that Haye does not go to lose the next fights
     
  9. Ilesey

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    I didn't say it would be anything like the Valuev fight. Plus, who has Helenius actually fought in his career to suggest he can now win at championship level? Brewster? Scott Gammer?? Puhlease.

    Like I said, it's all too easy for people to just pick Helenius based on the fact they don't like Haye. :good
     
  10. Cachibatches

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    Helenius has the power to knock Haye out, but so far, Helenius seems to have a good chin, so maybe not the other way around. Haye may be faster, but the size difference and Helenius' good use of jab can counteract that.

    And that right to the body will sure work on Haye's questionable stamina.

    I will take Helenius by knock out.
     
  11. Sakura

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    I have no antipathy towards Haye, otherwise than for his chicken out Klitschko fight. why I bet Helenius winner based on pure facts not hate...

    The match is very probable, if Haye not lose following fights. Sauerland has the option to guess the remaining
     
  12. Beekeeper

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    anut, have you actually watched Helenius?
     
  13. rushman

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    I'd have to see more of Helenius. Haye is a genuine top ten heavy, probably somewhere around 8th or 9th atm.

    Is Helenius ready to take on a top ten heavy?
     
  14. Goodhill

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    This minimal ring movement seems to be Sauerland´s trademark (Abraham-Huck etc.). IMO Helenius has hand speed and defense in a level in which he could take a fight with Haye.

    Helenius would be huge under-dog though and the possibility that we would see a Haye-Valuev -dance reincarnation would be big.

    Fight´s not likely to happen. If Haye retires in a year as he said, he will most probable fight 1-2 low-risk fights against Harrison-type fellows
     
  15. madballster

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    Who the hell is Helenius? What the hell have we seen from this nobody? Nothing. Let this guy fight a couple of shot, old have-beens like Tua/Rahman/Briggs etc. etc. and beat them convincingly, then get back to me.