David Haye vs. the Heavyweight Division

Since Minto entered the discussion.

 

Speed kills:deal

Haye can out-speed and out-slick every HW at the moment, twice over.

His chin is an issue, I won't deny it, but his reflex defence helps him immensley in this department against the ultra-slow competition he will be facing.

Against the top of the pile, Vlad, he has to find away around that long accurate jab. If he does then it is lights out for Mr Klitshcko.

 

He can most likely beat them all except Wladimir and "Iceman" Armannsson.

 

Yeah so he got koed. So did your hero wlad klitschko by 3 bums. So whats your point. There is no way in hell wlad klitschko can handle hayes speed and power. I think haye would stop wlad in the first round.

 

And maybe prime Minto.

 

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1st round? you must be dreaming....wake up dude wake up!

 

World class heavy with good pop and a solid chin?

Name one that is active right now?

 

you wake up fool. your boy can't take a punch. He can't hide that china for ever. Corrie Sanders said wlad had the weakest chin he ever saw. You can't make a bad chin good. You wait till haye lands it will be over.

 

Carl Thompson was not a bum, that's pure ignorance right there. Plus the fact that Haye won every round and gassed due to poor preparation. He's not made that mistake since.

 

He didn't get KO'd, he went down...and got right up and stopped the guy.

WALDO on the other hand is a different matter.

 

If the internet were around in the 60's I imagine this is the kind of response the average Liston fan would have given when fans of Clay would say their guy would make Liston look stupid :yep

 

Lost to a bum at 200? He lost to a former WBO and the then current IBO cruiserweight champ in his eleventh fight.

Good on him for not being precious about his "0" and taking chances early in his career and learning from his mistakes.

People dont stop whinging about wanting fighters to make the best fights and take risks, as soon as one comes along he is "really annoying" - what the hell do people want? He's done more in 21 fights than most do in a career. Enjoy him while you can as he is a one off.

 

Firstly, i agree. However, u can utilize your physical tools such as size, strength, foot speed, ring generalship and intelligence to lessen the chance of getting hit. Wlad can be hit with the initial punch but he has become very good at avoiding the follow-up punches. He understands his limitations and fights accordingly. It may not be pretty all the time, but it wins.

take a look at his last 7 fights, all wins, consisting of 57 total rounds. He probably won 50 or 51 of those rounds, including 5kos. 6 of those 7 guys were top 10 ring ranked guys. he's getting it done.

Haye has a weak chin and doesn't use many of things listed above. The Mormeck and Fragomeni prove that much.

Secondly, u are still a jackass :hi:

 

Ouch!

 

lets wait until he at least fights 1 time...right now, he has not even chosen an opponent.......too much speculation...too early but he has a good shot at beating alot of top 10 heavies