David Haye vs Tomasz Adamek

2 completely different things, thats why we want to see this fight!

 

Adamek by decision.

Haye will dance around just like with Valuev & Wlad, then collect his paycheck.

Afterwards, he will claim. "I could see the knockout every round, but I sprained my vagina during training, and just couldn't let the punches fly."

 

Haye got outboxed as nearly every Wlad's opponent. Has Haye fought a live opponent at HW before facing Wladimir? A top ten fighter in his prime? Valuev? He has never been any good and the fight was close and boring - last rounded probably decided. Even 46yo Holyfield did better against Valuev.

I dont hate Haye, but I state a fact that if you call Haye a credible HW, then you should call Adamek (who has better HW resume) a credible too.

 

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I like Adamek as ive mentioned before but some of the **** that Haye is getting is frankly bull****, he broke his hand against Valuev so ive never understood the **** he gets for that fight and the Ruiz fight was actually quite exciting, he simply did not have the style, ability nor the size to deal with Wladimir and has admitted as much. IMO they are both credible heavyweights despite the fact both could still be fighting at cruiserweight, i simply feel that Haye holds all the aces in a potential matchup.

 

And so is the way things go on ESB.


Haye loses a fight that he didn't particularly do that bad in, and everyone thinks he is just ****. You judge a fighter by what he does in the ring, without letting the trashtalk cloud your judgement of what he did. People are s ****ing pussified and sensitive these days.... Get over it. He lost, but gave Wlad a lot more trouble and stiffer test than anyone in recent memory.


There is nothing about his performance against Wlad that would leave me to believe that he would be in any danger of losing to Adamek.

 

Haye is getting the bull**** because of the trash talk and hype before the fight. Had Wladimir lost, he would have got similar bull****, because he was trash-talking too.

To be honest I think that fight against Wladimir was the best Haye's fight at HW, despite the fact the he clearly lost. He showed good defences and proved that his chin is better that people think. He won 2-3 rounds, and was the toughest test for Wladimir since Peter I.

Haye just set the expectations too high, thats why hes getting this whole **** back.

 

Very true. But true boxing fans (and self-proclaimed experts) like we see on this site should know better than to use the bar David set for himself as criteria for judging his true abilities in the ring.


I think he whips Adamek, and I think he whips him good.


I don't think Adamek has the power, speed, and mobility to keep Haye off of him. And I think Haye has a lot better defense than anyone Adamek has beaten.


But Adamek doesn't talk as much ****, so he automatically will get some emotional votes here.

 

On the other hand there was nothing about that fight that would leave me to believe that Adamek would be in any danger too (if he fights Haye). Haye's workrate and stamina would be his grave against Adamek.

 

before wlad vs haye fight i seen on this forum from brits this so called "dose of realism"... hilarious

 

The trash talk was there to sell the fight, not because Haye doesnt respect Wlad and not because he dislikes Wlad. If Wladimir had lost he would have wrongly been called a fraud but not because of the trash talk, just because thats the nature of some fans.

completely agree with the second paragraph, i will say that it was always a tough ask for Haye to beat Wlad simply due to the way there styles would mesh, anyone expecting a scrap was certain to be disapointed, it was always going to be a chess match.

 

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Totally agree with this and he does deserve to get stick for his trash talk.

In the cold light of day though, he didn't actually box that badly and as you say it probably was his best performance at HW taking into account the quality of the opponent.

Folk seem to be confusing what Haye actually said he was going to do and failed to do, with what he actually did, which was box not that badly and prove to be the toughest test for a long while for a man mountain and excellent HW in Wlad.

 

Dont see why the British are always picked out just because of the fantastic support they give out to there fighters.... i always try and look at things realistically but everyone from any different nation will be sucked into supporting a guy from there country at some point or another.:good

 

Coming from - not a Haye fan- I was giving the man respect during the fight for the overcautious wlad and haye. He was fighting smart against Wlad but the trash talking for years really didnt help his case. I was totally fine with the fight's outcome until Haye pulled his shoe off to show off his pinky toe. That kind of crossed the line, I hope he hadnt of done that

 

And this forum is filled with English so Haye will automatically get most of the votes here.

Adamek does best when he is facing adversity, he has shown it before, and fights off the backfoot very well. He is not afraid, and has been to hell and back in more then one fight, and is THERE till the end. Haye isn't. Haye is mostly present for the first part of the fight. Against Adamek it will be Haye that is going after him, not vice-versa. Haye won't have the stamina for that, and Adamek is no slouch with a weak defense, either. This isn't Adamek of 2005. It's not like Haye will be swarming Adamek and keeping up the pressure for all 12 rounds, so Adamek will not need to try to keep Haye off him for 12 rounds like he did with Arreola, who is what you call a pressure fighter. It seems your analysis is based off the fact that Haye will be constantly attacking and pressuring Adamek and swarming him with hayemakers. I don't see that happening, Adamek has the skill and power to keep Haye respecting him, and he will be cautious with Adamek, otherwise he will get caught.