David Haye

About $3 should do the trick.

 

Haha, wtf, williams is better than Haye.

I don't think you could get 10 people on this board who are not serious haters or family of Danny to accept that statement.

And how has he proven more than Haye. Haye has proven to be an elite level fighter at cruiserweight who unified the divison and is a HW champ albeit he needs to face a Klit to be legitimate in my eyes.

 

Or they could just throw him an Interim title, thats worth about $3.

 

That´s true but self-belief doesn´t imrpove your defense or chin. I think he is too much of a loudmouth at times.

Well, Chambers is as fast as him, Povetkin is not but Haye never fought anybody who brings the heat like Povetkin. Chagaev is past it but he is a good tactition and has enough power to just need to land one time to finish it. Beating an old and never has been Barrett - and getting knocked down while doing so - and beating a past prime Valuev who didn´t have the best credentials as a champ himself and just lived from his size doesn´t make you a good heavyweight contender. I have to admit that he has the potential to be one.

Well, if Vitali´s body betrays him it´s not Haye beating him I can´t see Haye beating Wlad. Wlad is too good using his size and range as a defense nowadays. Adding his excellent clinching techniques and you have it very hard for Haye to land anything. And Wlad has a better chin than he get´s credit for. I think Haye would end like most of Wlad´s opponents. I see no one beating him the next 2-4 years.

He has a lice chance with anybody but the Klitschkos but shouldn´t be the favourite against any of them.

It doesn´t matter to me who on here agrees to me. 99.9% of the people on here are fanboys, their oppinions suck and mean nothing.

Cruiserweight credentials mean near to nothing at hw. Just look how bob Foster got annhilated everytime he stepped up. And he is one of the best lhws ever! The weight difference between him and the most fighters Haye faces is very similar.
Beating Valuev does not make you a top contender at heavyweight. :deal

 

Yeah but 10 people not agreeing should atleast make you think that JUST POSSIBLY your statement is somewhat daft. To completely ignore facts and other peoples opinions would tell its own story.

For that matter who did Williams beat to be a top contender?

 

I never said he was a top contender. Just that the win over him is a better win for Vitaly than a win over Haye at this stage would be.

Yeah, people not agreeing at the general forum makes me think. Think that I am right :good

 

But who on his resume makes him beter than haye. Please, please don't say Tyson.

You wouldn't think you were right if you saw danny on the prizefighter in his last fighter. The Prizefighter that Audley Harrison won of all people.

Danny got startched in like the 1st/2nd round by a nobody. He's fighting again soon too so maybe you can watch him against Chisora so you can re-evaluate your stance.

 

I´m not talking about Danny Williams but about the Danny Williams Vitali fought. He had proven his worth at hw, albeit he never was a top contender, while Haye has not yet. That´s my point. I guess a Haye nuthugger will never get it.

Oh, and yeah, just for you: Tyson

 

Talking ****? No, I don't think so. Doivit agreed to give DK options on him for 3 fights (thats nearly the only way you get at his titles without being a mandatory). Haye will fight Ruiz, who slipped away from King to sign with GBP, then there's Meehan/Chagaev that's been ordered as an WBA interim title fight, Meehan is DK owned though its far from certain he can beat Chagaev. Valuev has his rematch clause, and he's 50% owned by DK. There's the 3 fight option.

It may not go down like that,and I certainly hope it doesn't, but it's far from talking **** given that we're talking about DK and the WBA circe jerk here.

 

He's beaten Valuev for ****s sake.

 

So did Chagaev (the real WBA champion)...........and he didn't run like a ***** all night in the process.

 

Dude if youre a Wlad fan a HW going backwards whould make you really happy

You can't have it both ways. Wladimir almost always goes in as the bigger , stronger man and still fights extremely conservatively.

|haye fought the exactly right fight for fighting a guy that size and had him in more trouble then anyone has before.

No person in their right mind would say that Valuev is on a level with the Brothers K but Haye still deserves his place and his belt.

 

And he isn't better than Danny Williams? What's your point?

 

deano is a dick.

 

He may be better than Williams, but as others have said...he's untested still. Williams has declined, and has always had a problem with focus and motivation, but he's got a ton of heart and that took him a long way.

Squeaking out a decision against Valuev doesn't make Haye a top heavyweight, paper title or not. My point is, it was clearly known that Valuev was beatable with movement. Chagaev and Holyfield already displayed that, and they didn't throw 11.9 punches a round and run scared all night. Haye is bigger than Chagaev and Holyfield also, so the claim that Haye fought the perfect for being such a small man is B.S.

Haye got in a left hand and wobbled him for maybe 5 seconds, it's not like he KTFO'd the guy or even took him down. Valuev had been stunned before, but given that fact that it happened in the 12th after he'd been chasing Doivit all night and was leaving himself open more that round in order to try for a big punch himself, he got shaken a little bit more IMO....but he was far from being out on his feet.

That's my point.