David Hayes comeback vs Tyson Furys

I think some people assume he can’t punch because he’d prefer to outbox you than load up on his punches. That and Eddie Hearn always saying he can’t punch on IFL and everyone taking it as gospel. All heavyweights can punch. Some a bit harder than others but when you get hit by Fury it is going to hurt. As long as you have enough power to keep guys honest that’s all that matters. Fury is definitely capable of stopping Wilder.

 

Great post, mate.

Fury and Hearn are always having a pop at each other it seems. I agree though, might worth a sneaky bet on a stoppage win for Fury. 3 stone+ is a huge weight difference when you’re getting punched.

 

He kept mentioning the weight difference and Wilders slighter build throughout that press tour. I suspect he’s fully intending to use his size advantage as much as possible. Would be fantastic if he pulled it off, really hope he does.

Would make the inevitable Joshua fight enormous.

 

If he is so naturally gifted and brilliant why was nobody saying it before Klitschko ? Fury is the emperor's New clothes for many now

 

I was. I called it and won a fair bit betting on him to. I think it was probably because Klitschko was so dominant for so long that people were afraid to doubt him. But warning signs of his decline where starting to show with his display against Jennings. Fury presented himself as a complete clown in the build up I don't think anyone took him seriously and assumed he was just talking out of his rear end.

 

Maybe YOU did but there seems so many wise after the event that claim they always knew Fury was gonna do it that don't correlate to the fact that not many were saying it before the event , sure some people probably thought he could be a world champion but all this most talented fighter of his generation and other hyperbole people now use whilst talking about Tyson Fury is all bollards that they are basing on one fight , nobody was calling him a special talent that was going to dominate boxing before Klitschko and not nearly as many were saying it immediately after , he's the emperor's New clothes to an army of casuals.

 

Who’s nobody, did you take a survey or are you trying to remember back to pre 2015? People were saying very positive things about Fury but remember

Off you go with the casual line again meant as a derogatory put down on people who admire Fury’s skills, ironically he’s not a fighter ‘casual’ fans enjoy watching.

 

What's all this "one fight" nonsense? You're clearly new to the game. Or at least new to Tyson Fury. He showed signs of being great over his whole career. He took Chisoras 0 when he was 22 years old, Chisora being heavily favoured going into the fight.

I remember the night he boxed Martin Rogan. He was 23. Rogan was a British level brawler who gave everyone he fought a tough night. Fury boxed the whole fight southpaw, didn't take one punch in the process and stopped Martin in five. The opposition may not have been of much quality, but the performance was so evidently special.

The second Chisora performance was the most one sided beating Chisora ever took. Chisora has always been in competitive fights, including against Vitali Klitschko and David Haye before being KO'd. But not against Fury. Fury took his soul.

The Hammer fight was a wonderful exhibition of skill. Again Fury didn't take a punch.

Fury boxed his way into a mandatory position including two world title eliminators.

He proved against Klitschko he could take his extraordinary skill set up the levels.

You can continue your "one fight" anti Fury charade, but it's rubbish. I also have to question the mentality of somebody who hates on a fighter as much as you hate on Fury. Whatever about liking a fighter, your hater behaviour is extremely odd.

 

It's ok to be deragatory on this forum to people who appreciate certain others but not Fury good one son !

Some people are genuine Fury fans that have developed a respect for his skillset over time most of his fans are casuals that enjoy the character Fury portrays in the media and don't actually watch many fights , no point having a debate with you really if you're just going to flat out lie about the fact that Fury has multiplied his fanbase since he became an internet anti hero.

 

If you appreciate certain others...good! You can appreciate lots of different types of fighters. We’re supposed to support boxing, we’re not blindly supporting a football team or whatever. You don’t have to be team AJ or team Fury, that’s ridiculous. You can appreciate both.

‘Some’ people this, ‘most’ people that. You just make sweeping generalisations with absolutely no objective evidence...just your skewed, biased perspective.

 

I was alive and watching boxing in 2015 nobody was calling Fury a special talent for beating Chisora or Hammer , a tiny tiny minority were backing him to beat Wlad , in the immediate aftermath of his victory against Wlad he won more fans but few was saying he was the best of his generation and ridiculously skilled , fast forward three years and suddenly he's 10x more popular and highly rated , people act like his skillset is comparable with the greats because of his big talk on twitter , he's known for one fight by most which has been fabled , a lot of these guys who are claiming how good he was in other fights are friends with Google who haven't even seen them because far fewer watched his fights back then yet tso many are now experts on Fury's entire career.

 

You're a strange one, you are.

Firstly; why do you care if you're not a fan of the fighter?

Secondly; you're probably right to an extent. I'm sure Fury has plenty of new casual fans who enjoy listening to him speak more than watching him fight. He's finally being promoted properly for the first time in his career and gaining support is inevitable.

Thirdly; welcome to boxing! Uneducated casual fans are, and always have been part of the game. Every popular boxer has casual fans, some more than others. Fury has a lot less casual fans than AJ for example. Why aren't you spending half your day hating on AJ?

My advice is let it go mate. Casual fans come and go. They'll switch fighters depending on what way the sun is shining but there will always be many of them. If Fury beats Wilder, he'll gain some. If he loses, he'll lose some.

Besides all this, the sport needs casual fans to thrive. I personally don't like AJ. But I think a sold out Wembley full of idiots is bloody great for the sport. Getting so upset over casuals is a personality flaw on your part mate. Get over it.

Btw, twentyman is no casual. He's the best poster on the forum.

 

He was on channel 5 with Mick so plenty of people got to see him. He has definitely gained a lot of non boxing fans due to his struggles with mental illness, addiction and his Gypsy fairytale lifestyle and also because he is a man of the people and by that I mean he takes time out of his life to talk to people when the media and promoters are not watching. If he loses against Wilder the same fans you are talking about will be ones joining the 'I told you so' bandwagon.

 

DM me your bacs details mate and I’ll send that money over.

Thanks bud, appreciated