David Haye's routine

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by atberry, Jan 20, 2011.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realise you cannot become more powerful without getting stronger don't you, dumbass?

    You clearly just have an issue with weights and are too ignorant to change your mind whatever is said, even if it's very logical and simple.
     
  2. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    I'd rather fight someone who spent half his time lifting weights than someone who spent that time doing boxing specific work.
     
  3. KillEmAll

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    Right, gotcha. Next time I want to increase my punching power i'll head to the heavyworks gym for some bicep curls instead of drilling power combinations on the heavybag.
     
  4. KillEmAll

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    Exactly, thank you.
     
  5. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet again showing you know nothing of weight training. Train your biceps to increase punching power? Wow. Dumb. Try heavy deadlifts, squats, cleans, snatches, any olympic lift really that improve explosiveness in the hips and you'll see an improvement in power.

    It's funny, always the people that have literally no idea what they're talking about when it comes to weight training that are against it. How about if you don't have a clue just don't talk about the subject, don't try and give it a bad name because you know nothing of it's benefits. You kind of sound like an old man that's scared of new technologies.
     
  6. viru§™

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    So would I if somebody is dumb enough to spend their entire time coming up to a fight in a gym weight training. Weight training is about 1-3 1 hour sessions a week, so that wouldn't be an issue.
     
  7. KillEmAll

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    :patsch It's was a ****ing joke. I'm painting you the overall picture of your theory and pointing out why it's BS.
     
  8. MrSmall

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    Hey maybe I'll read this thread and say some bull**** myself :D
     
  9. viru§™

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    You haven't painted a thing. Lets go back to the logical steps. You say a faster more powerful boxer is a better boxer. Seeing as to become more powerful you must increase both speed and strength you must agree that weights can help you become more powerful? If somebody becomes more powerful overall then it can translate well to any sport. Do you agree with that?
     
  10. viru§™

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    This Killemall guy is so dense it's hilarious.
     
  11. mgmark7

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    It's nothing special. You can see this any decent gym. Chest size isn't a good indication of what someone can bench. His squat isn't anything special either. Though he is a big guy with long levers. I thought he would be better doing deadlifts than squatting and incline/ decline benches.

    I was suprised there was no kettlebellwork mentioned in his training since it does seem he performs some HIIT with his sprint work.

    I don't think this is the full story.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    I know your being sarcastic but it just proves you know nothing about proper weight training no athlete would do bicep curls to increase explosive power and speed.

    Plenty of top fighters have used weights when looking to improve the power and strength aspect of their physical fitness, Holyfield, Lewis, RJJ, Hopkins. Mackie Shilstone is a well respected in the boxing game and advocates the correct use of weights. Many top pro boxers have specific strength and conditioning coaches as well as nutritionists and the reason for this is that many boxing trainers have very little knowledge in these areas.

    Weight training should be supplemental to boxing training not replace it and should be speficially designed to aid a boxer as well as only being applicable if gains in strength and power are traits that are absent and deemed beneficial. For example if a boxer is already very strong and powerful for his weight there is little point adding a weight routine to increase these aspects and the time would be better used working on other aspects such as technique. But if a boxer is often overpowered in his own weight class then this is a weakness and it would be beneficial to immplement a correct weight routine.
     
  13. mgmark7

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    Very true. Agree.
     
  14. MrSmall

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    Goddamn I had already replied!
     
  15. KillEmAll

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    Being stronger does help with lots of sports. I don't agree that weights help you become a more powerful boxer though.

    Being a powerful boxer essentially means your a hard hitter maybe with KO power. This comes from very hard work in the gym or natural ability.

    I don't understand how you can not understand that to become a better boxer you need to train hard at boxing. Sparring, drills, fitness and analysis is what makes you good. The ability to adjust distance, land accurate punches, stay relaxed, slip, bob, weave and move has nothing to do with lifting weights.

    Your angle seems to be that a strength program lasts only a few hours 3x per week so that's cool. That hour training drains your muscles of energy. I'm sure you agree that if you lifted heavy before sparring you would be dead. It can take many days to recover if your going to failure.