David Haye's stoppage of Dereck Chisora an underrated win ?

Chisora was never off his feet against Fury in 3 fights and the 2nd fight Chisora retired inbetween rounds.

Haye floored Chisora heavily twice and stopped him within 5 rounds which is a significantly better result.

I'm not sure why you're trying to turn this into Tyson Fury thread go make a Tyson Fury thread if you want to discuss his wins vs Chisora.

 

You do realize wins can age better right ? that happens alot in boxing. Chisora fought on for twelve more years and gave numerous notable Heavyweights tough fights. And yet Haye is the only one to stop him early and with a considerable weight disadvantage hence it's an underrated win. I don't know what is so hard to understand and why you keep having to make such a song and dance about it.

If you want to harp on about Fury's 3rd win over a past it Chisora be my guest i don't care and it's irrelevant to the thread in which you are derailing.

Again why are you going on this rant about Haye's resume ? i really don't care my guy. All i did was state Haye's win over Chisora was underrated and not really talked about that much these days. No one is stating Haye has a good resume filled with great names so i'm not sure what you're even on about. Someone in this thread asked what was Haye's best wins so i listed them i never once stated that any of those names were great names.

Mormeck was Lineal Cruiserweight champion and ranked number 1 in the division so it's a good win in context. Is Mormeck a great name ? no but it's still a good win.

Valuev wasn't that good despite his size but he's still one of the more prominent Heavyweight champions of the 2000s. @Rumsfeld did a video awhile ago about the top 5 Heavyweight champions of that decade and had Valuev in the top 5. Yes i'm aware of Valuev's controversial decision over an ancient Holyfield. But it's still a solid win for Haye in the context of the size difference and how many title fights Valuev won which was 6 in total.

 

Strange guy ? stay on course ? gaslighting ? and i'm attacking you apparently are you for real mate ? what i even said to you ? i'm absolutely baffled.

You come into this thread bringing up Tyson Fury and his record which is totally irrelevant to the topic that's all that's happened.

You're instigating a debate about Fury which i've already told you i don't care about as it has nothing to do with the topic. And yet you continue to harp on about Fury's wins over Chisora derailing the thread.

And i knew as soon as you mentioned Tyson Fury in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with Tyson Fury that i would be wasting my time.

It seems like you're coping to me "easily could've floored Chisora" well he didn't in 3 fights so why are even bringing up a fantasy scenario that never happened ? And why are totally dismissive that Haye floored Chisora twice heavily stopping him early trying to take away from Haye's win ? so you don't give much credit for Haye brutally stopping a younger fresher Chisora early. But you will give alot of credit for Fury stopping past it Chisora a 3rd time based on a fantasy that you conjured up that "Fury could've dropped Chisora" ? I got you makes alot of sense.

Put me on ignore i really don't care i don't even know you nor have i interacted with you before on here. You insult me and accuse me of doing all these things which is total lies. And then when you can't stick to the topic in hand and can't debate so you act emotional and put me on ignore what a joke.

You do you my guy good day to you.

 

Yeah it's not a great list mate Haye doesn't have what i would call any real stand out wins nor is his resume that good.

I class Mormeck as a good win based on his number 1 ranking and being Lineal Cruiserweight champion. I wouldn't say historically he rates that highly though amongst the best Cruiserweights even in a division with not a long history.

I don't think that highly of Valuev but he did win 6 world title fights and with the size difference it makes it a solid win for Haye nothing more nothing less.

Haye vs Enzo was pretty hyped up fight at the time in the UK Enzo was a champion and had made a few defences it was champion vs champion and two big punchers. Enzo's opposition wasn't the best but you have to remember the Cruiserweight division has never really had a strong era except for Usyk's era. I would say again it's a solid win for Haye i wouldn't say Enzo was anything special but he was decent champion with a big punch.

Ruiz was past his best vs Haye so that does take away from Haye's win but i'll give Haye somewhat credit for being the first man top Ruiz in 14 years since David Tua did it.

All in all it's not a great resume far from it but i do think though Haye's injuries towards the end of his career stopped him from having a better Heavyweight career than he actually did just my opinion. Apparently Haye gave Wilder the work in sparring that would've been an interesting match up.