David Lemieux back and training with Sergio Martinez

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  1. TitoMahawk

    TitoMahawk Retarded trolls detector Full Member

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    Right.
    But over hyping is not only a Canadian brand.
    Happens every where with any young undefeated and exciting fighters.

    And as soon as someone loses, a lot of people here **** on him.

    Got to be in the middle of things and appreciate the sport and especially an explosive guy like Lemieux.

    And I mostly agree with what you said.

    (yes I'm Canadian)
     
  2. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Yeah, most Canadians including myself overhyped him. He might be a smart kid, but lost total control of his emotions in the Rubio fight. LOTS to improve on.

    He'll be back though, he's still a kid... clean shots to the temple, especially if you just unloaded a sh1tload of power punches hitting leather, aren't exactly easy to come back from. He got exposed for being that, just a kid that couldn't keep his composure... he has the potential, and will be back for some exciting fights. Go David. :bbb
     
  3. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    Unless Sergio can make his arms longer and teach him defense, it means nothing.
     
  4. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he is already better than chavez jr
     
  5. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    JCC Jr. didn't lose to Rubio.
     
  6. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Because he did not fought him...:patsch When he does (if he has the balls) he will get toasted too.:dealChavez Jr is'nt better than Lemieux IMO...Maybe just a better chin but Lemieux has all the other advantages...
     
  7. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

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    JCC jr. fought Duddy, Zbik, Vanda who are better than Lemieux, who has fought nothing but bums and was KO'd terribly when he finally stepped up.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl

    where has your fan boy ass been for the last 5 months?
     
  9. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Why do you, of all ****s, want to know?! You're also the last ESBer to have posted in David's tribute thread. :rofl

    EX in Yuma mid-Apr to end-May, vacation in QC in June, posted out mid-July to current base... just settled into my new house. Even said it on my ESB profile. Google 427 Squadron Petawawa, you'll know what kind of workload I had to deal with... :lol:

    Fan boy ass, let's debate this one for a sec... a fanboy loves, adores their favorite boxer to the point of cheering their strenghts blindly without taking their weaknesses into account. Did I do that, or argued for / backed up someone who did? Prove it, fvckface. :D
     
  10. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The ones among you talking about a weak chin and very little punch resistance...common give it a rest.

    If you did watch the fight against Rubio, it should be crystal clear that David threw everything he could at Rubio and more in the first 5 rounds. The guy simply lost all his energy trying to knock the other one out and ended up with no more legs in the process. It's a rookie mistake and I'm sure he learned from it.

    His chin wasn't so much in question for the ending. He got stunned but when you have no more energy and your legs are gone, it's normal not to have the same punch resistance as a result...

    David's biggest problem up this point, has been his lack of quality sparring since his coaching staff aren't high on sparring too much. If he could, David should spar with Martinez whenever offered. It's a luxury you can't dismiss when it's available...

    Nothing prepares you as well as sparring can. He needs to spar much more to improve fight reactions and get a feel of more realistic live fight situations.

    As for comparing Lemieux with Chavez Jr., well Chavez was brought up even slower than David and now has over 40 fights already. Chavez has nothing on Lemieux and given a chance to meet, I'm sure Lemieux knocks him out.
     
  11. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lemieux lost an eliminator fight at 21 against a guy who performed ok against Pavlik when Pavlik was at his best.
    He beated in one round Ayala who went for 12 (if I remember well) against AA.
    He beated a good (but not elite) veteran with 50 fights in Camacho jr.

    Lemieux can knock everyone who does not have an titanium chin. And now he knows that the have to train harder, be more patient, and listen to his coach.

    Lemieux has all the tools (brute power, good technique) to become one of the most exciting champion in boxing. Future is still future and we can not know what will happen. But I believe think Lemieux will have a bright future.
     
  12. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    exactly! you just described youself. we kept telling you its too early to put so much hype in him and that getting KOs early wasn't necessary a good thing because he wasn't getting rounds in which has left his stamina in question. also since lemieux had so few rounds in his pro career judging his boxing skills still remained undetermined, having a good amateur record has little to no leverage at the pro level to determine skill level. yet you kept on trying to shove it in our faces that his skill level was second to none. not hating on the guy but power can blind fans into thinking a fighter to something he isn't.
     
  13. drozzy

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    You do have one side of the story there, true. But you couldn't honestly say I saw him as the second coming of (Tyson? in a white body?) because I never did. My analysis of Lemieux-Naugler tells it, I thought he was wreckless when things weren't going his way (see the part where Russ tells him to slow down - he exchanges like a boy in a schoolyard). The big mistake I made was to assume his defense would be enough against top 10 MW's, obviously it has to be worked on. He's no glass chin, but he's one dumb all-out puncher as of his last fight. Find me one of my posts where I preached that his skill level was second to none i.e no flaws, logic always kicks in at some point. Good luck man. :bbb
     
  14. Skilletscuz

    Skilletscuz mma champ Ronda Rousey Full Member

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    im really fond of Lemieux, he's got alot of good stuff going for him in boxing

    i think he suffered a little bit of over-hyping, alot of that due to nationalist pride, but there's nothing wrong with that.

    So he stepped up in class and got stopped by a diminished A-caliber fighter, whats the big ****ing deal? Marco Antonio Rubio used to be on top of the game and STILL a legit KO artist.

    Great interview. His loss has been the best opportunity for him yet, and could allow him to get up to the next level. Just think, if he had never loss, he wouldnt have the chance to train with Sergio Martinez and improve his stamina game.
     
  15. shan7-8-6

    shan7-8-6 Active Member Full Member

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    Yeh i agree with you on that, he spent all his energy in the earlier rounds trying to knock rubio out, but the guys a vetran and survived the onslaught and stopped this kid. I hope he comes back strong and wins a world title, i remember watching his training videos when he was an amateur, the title boxing videos if anybody doesnt remember.