David Price Calls For Greater Drug Testing.... + Robert Smith Response....

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  1. JamieC

    JamieC Active Member Full Member

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    thats a ridiculous cop-out, why not make everything legal if its a bit difficult to control? like somebody said surely a licence fee would pay for one random test a year, and make sure theres pre/post-fight testing. and at top level im sure they could afford vada. if you make it legal whats the point of watching? i know i wouldnt
     
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    JamieC Active Member Full Member

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    plus 24/7s would be ****, just following fighters round whilst they pop to the pharmacy
     
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  3. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Well at the moment its not an exageration, giving the level of testing and the prize money on offer, to assume that a very large percentage of fighters are using something they probably shouldn't. So if everybody is able to use, it makes it an even playing field.

    Really why is it different to take a steroid compared to any suppliment that increases your performance? Theres long term health risks to Protein Shakes you know.
     
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  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I agree with Rob's sentiments that you've got to either clamp down properly or make it legal.

    Of course, steroid producers are like the people that chip games consoles, they're always a step ahead - but that shouldn't stop the authorities properly trying to clamp down on the perpetrators.

    Hopefully with the naming and shaming of Lance Armstrong etc and the reaction towards what he did, we might see some progress.

    The lack of testing in British boxing is a joke. I was tested several times as a teenager playing rugby - at the sort of level I was playing at where you are being watched most weeks by professional clubs it was commonplace.

    The official reason - which is probably valid - is that it was part of an education initiative to keep youngsters on the straight and narrow.... and then the guys that implemented it would come into the schools and pull us out of assembly and ask us to stand there with our hands in our pockets whilst they explained the importance of a clean lifestyle.

    Of course it didn't work, a lad who played on the same team as me has done three years for being a supplier of E's and has just been sent down again for a ten stretch for running a crack factory in Bradford.
     
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  5. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Northerners.....there just no hope for them!
     
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  6. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can understand the argument about making it legal, even though I don't agree with it. Some of those against it say that if you make it legal it's not about who is the best anymore, but about who is able to get the best drugs, and that each individual will react differently to peds. This is a ridiculous argument, because that's how it is anyway. Every fighter has different genetics, every fighter reacts differently to training, some fighters can afford to hire Freddie Roach, other fighters can only afford joe blog. It's not as if at the moment it's a perfectly balanced, level playing field that will be disturbed by the legalisation of peds. PEDS would just be another variable. Besides, the same people making this argument also say it's not really about who can get the best peds, but about who can get the best masking agents, who can hide it best. Well, if it was legal there wouldn't be any need to hide it.


    The reason I am against the legalisation of peds is that even if you made them legal, some boxers will choose not to take them, (for perfectly good reasons) and it is not fair on them. There are concerns over side effects, and what they do to long term health, and no one should have to feel under pressure to juice up, but that's what would happen if they were made legal. A lot of this pressure would be coming from trainers. The ones who just want to hit the big time and don't care for the health of their fighters. Not to mention promoters, agents, managers etc. "Why the **** don't you wanna do it? it's legal now. How bad do you want this?" The fighter would feel compelled to stick a needle in his ass even though he's uncomfortable with it, even though he's rightly worried about his health. Nah, it's a dangerous road to go down.

    I myself do not compete in any sports, but I train for health, and because I enjoy it. I've been training for over 10 years, but gains are slow now. I would love to be able to deadlift triple my bodyweight, or do a one arm pullup. I've looked into drugs like tren, that could help accelerate me towards these goals. I would be lying if I said I hadn't thought about it, but for one, I might feel like I was cheating (even though this is not really true), and secondly, I don't want to lose my hair or make my skull grow.
     
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