David "The Hayemaker" Haye

Not according to Haye and his fans.

 

You will be remembered for having a Fraudley avatar.

 

That's what you'd like. Unfortunately for you, they'll be remembered as the dominant HWs of their era, and Wlad's will be one of the longest reigns at HW. Must suck to be a Klitschko hater and watch them winning and making millions time after time, while your hero David Haye hides from them in fear of being KTFO :yep

 

What are the average age for Haye fans who still backing up that fraud!?.. 14

 

I'm not a hater. Vitali's career defining moments are getting stopped by Lewis and quitting vs Byrd. Wlads are being KOd by Sanders & Brewster. They have no career defining wins. Do you dispute this?

 

Yes I do

 

Let's hear their career defining wins then?

 

Wladimir

I must admit the loss to Sanders was a letdown but the defining fights after that for me are

1. Peter: Peter was going as a favourite into the fight against a "broken man with no heart". Wladimir having had a devastating defeat against the "easy" opponent Sanders (never take an opponent to easy) and Brewster. Wladimir went down 4(?) times (3 rabbit punches), showed heart and erarned this win. Peter never was the same after that fight

2. Byrd: A fight showing that Wladimir is back

3. Ibragimov: A boring fight (blame Iggy) but another belt against an undefeated beltholder. Sultan never fought again

4. Chagaev: The REAL holder of the belt David is wearing. Another undefeated beltholder and first conquerer of mount Valuev (and he looked better than Haye). He was shooled by Wladimir.

 

I still can´t believe that Peter was seen as a favourite in this fight....

 

At the time he was seen as the next big thing...

 

I want WHO NEXX

 

You are judging Wlad before his career is over. With a little luck he still has a good 3-4 years in front of him.

What were Lewis' career defining moments in 1999, four years before the end of his career? Getting knocked by unheralded McCall and then be unable to even knock him down as he held down his guard in a scandalous rematch? Hugging to a draw with former cruiserweight Holyfield? Maybe going 12 rounds with a Croatian nobody Mavrovich?

You should learn to judge the historic standing of fighters only well after they retire, not before.

 

Let's talk about Haye's career defying moments.

How history now stands he would be remembered as the guy who made t-shirts with the severed heads of the 2 brothers and never fought them.
He should change his nick from 'Hayemaker' to 'T-shirt maker' or 'Excusemaker'

 

Scottish and Terry came out of the wood work. Sorry guys, but I don't think anyone is buying it this time. I am sure you can watch Haye vs Audley next while Wlad takes on a real challenge in Povetkin.