David Tua in the 50s

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Morrison's mom was off the reservation Arapaho. He was no Warren.
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    So, Tua blasting 4 champs, ex and future, is not as impressive as Marciani blasted a mummy in Louis.

    Ok.
     
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  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No it isn't quite frankly.

    Louis was a relevant contender when Marciano beat him, and the guy's that Tua beat were not.
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I repeat:

    "So let's not beat round the bush then: By your boxrec/Ring rankings-based logic, Tua almost certainly loses to ****ell, right? So would you actually stay faithful to the logic of your argument and follow it to its logical conclusion, and pick ****ell to beat Tua?"
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No I wouldn't.

    I am not sure that Cockell would have a very strong case, even based upon your straw man of my argument.
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Sorry, I didn't mean to strawman you. I had interpreted the bold text as suggesting that Tua would inevitably lose to a guy like Cockell, assuming Cockell was at the top of his game.

    Now if you're admitting that the Cockells and Valdezes of Tua's era were tougher opponents than Cockell and Valdez would have been, then I stand down and I commend you for acknowledging the differences between the two eras!
     
  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    What I am trying to get across, is not that Tua was better or worse than Cockell or Valdez, or that he would beat or lose to them.

    I am suggesting that you should have grave reservations, about picking him over the very beat of that era, let alone predicting that he could dominate the era.

    I wouldn't ask for a lot more than that.
     
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  8. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He beats old Luis has a tough fight a Layne but wins. Loses to Walcott and Charles and if he fought Archie he’d be embarrassed. He loses to the Rock by points in a 15 rounder. Just my opinion.