David Tua training for Shane Cameron

David Tua's workout

Light walk down the stairs
60 minutes of hard cooking
30minutes of eating
5 Hours of televison
Warmdown includes david stretching his legs out on the couch.

 

he looks like a little George Foreman.

 

on a completely different note, Is Tua saying in this clip that he is fighting for the pride of his people? completely honourable and fair enough. But, if a white boxer ever said that, can you imagine the stick they would get? He'd be called a nazi and banned from boxing probably.

 

Man I'm pulling for David to win.

If it goes past 3 then he is in trouble.

Shouldn't come in over 240 either.

 

Tua was finished 5 years ago. Years of inactivity and clearing out buffets aren't going to help that. Even if he wins, so what? Shane Cameron is an Australian version of Brian Minto. Tua's going nowhere, even in the most horrific era of heavyweight boxing since John L Sullivan.

 

That's because the west has this silly idea that the races of the world are: Black, White, Asian, Miscellaneous.
Which is just stupid. I'm Irish, I'm a Celt; I'm not the same race as an Italian even though we're both "white". An Aborigini and a Zulu are not the same even though they're both "black".
But you are right, white people are supposed to live with this guilt complex for things other people have done in the past regardless of what country they come from or if their ancesters were involved in any way shape or form. Look at America, if your ancesters were Spanish you're so called "latino"-which as far as I can tell can mean almost anything so long as you speak the language, in Europe, if your Spanish you're just Spanish, you're white because you're European.

 

I might be seeing things but Tua look a bit fat in that clip in which it's not good . I hope Tua some how weighs atleast 237. I'm a big Tua fan so i hope he wins it.

 

Looks old and does not have the physical attributes to do a Foreman and capture a title at his ripe age.

Damn, David has aged.

 

It only applies to white Americans. Tomasz Adamek says all the time that he is fighting for his people.

 

I got your first point, which I agree with, that in the US there is the belief that there are only a few categories of races, but I'm not sure what you were trying to say afterwards. In academics there is no such thing as race. What do exist are nationalities, ethnicities, and cultures. In which case I disagree with the notion of white guilt, or that white people celebrating their culture would get crucified for it.

What many "white" americans forget is that they are US citizens which is a nationality and has a culture. Culture and national pride can be celebrated without the conotation of race, much like how an African American or Asian American can celebrate being a US citizen. What many "white" US citizens also forget is that they originated from Europeans making them Euro-Americans. If a "white" american was more knowledgeable of their ethic backgrounds they would be expressing pride of their (insert: italian, irish, british, french, etc.) background.

This is not much different than Tua expressing nationalistic pride of his country of New Zealand and ethnic/cultural pride of the polynesian people. I for example am Mexican-American. I express national pride from growing up in the US. Ethnically I am "Mestizo", meaning a mix of Ameri-Indian and European because Mexican is not a "race", it's a nationality.

The confusion lies in expressing pride vs superiority.

 

I assume he means for polish people then? If he was saying he was fighting for white people he would be in trouble. Especially if he was world famous and getting loads of media attention. Tua isn't saying he's fighting for New Zealanders is he? But Polynesians.

If it was a white boxer saying that he was fighting for the white people of the USA for example, it would be viewed negatively.

 

Samoans. Tua is Samoan. I would be reasonably sure he's not talking about Tongans or anyone from Vanuatu.

David Tua is a source of inspiration for young Samoans, what's wrong with that? I'm not going to get into a big debate here but I grew up in NZ, and Samoans are generally part of the poorer section of society (due to being recent migrants without English as their first language), and have all the unfortunate side effects of that.

People are too worried about racist comments IMO, looking for them where they don't exist. Tua's not out there saying "no way am I going to lose to a white guy" - thank you Bernard - he's saying his fighting for his people. What if Tua was fighting a black American and said the same thing?

Did he say anything similar before he fought Lewis? Is that racist? Can a brown Samoan be racist towards a black English/Canadian?????

 

Who cares anyway? Athlete's of any colour say they're proud to represent their country/people at Olympics or whatever.

 

you're right, I don't care one way or the other. But guys are using "Polynesians" like they're all the same.

Just like "Europeans" aren't all the same, Polynesian's aren't all the same ieither.