David Tua v George Carpentier/Luis Firpo/Tommy Gibbons

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Devotee of the Little Red Book Full Member

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    Please to inform me how each of these would play out, prime Tua versus each of these in the form that challenged for the championship belt. I'm curious.
     
  2. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No takers, eh?

    I'll take a huge risk and throw my hat in the ring that says "Tua flattens them all". With the caveat that I can't remember how Gibbons fought. I think he was a short banger.
     
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  3. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    he beats firpo and not the other two!
     
  4. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd destroy Carpentier quickly.

    I'd bet on him against Firpo because of better durability, but it would be quite a war. Firpo was bigger man and he was very powerful himself.

    Gibbons would be interesting, he might be too small to deal with Tua's physical strength for full fight but he'd school him at the beggining. He was fantastic defensive boxer and he was very durable. It would be interesting, could end up similar to Byrd fight.
     
  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He definitely would beat Carpentier. George has no chance against him.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    I'd knock that son of a ***** spark out!
     
  7. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    what fights are prime Tua, I do not see a skillset from Tua that would be able to deal with Gibbons at all. People are judging these fights through a modern lens and that is not the correct way to assess them!
     
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  8. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder, what kind of lens you have been looking through... to come up with the idea, that Carpentier would beat Tua?
     
  9. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Hagiographer Full Member

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    Carpentier may have been out of his depth against a powerfull heavyweight, but he was hard as nails.

    He absorbed ridiculous amounts of punishment against Tunney in round 10.
     
  10. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    Tua fights like a modern guy,in the sense that he uses a high guard and takes turns punching. That won't work with Carpienters era.,from what I have seen from Tua he also lacks the clinch skills to really work Carpienters body and wear him down. See you guys think its gonna be a jab and cross game from mid range ,but the boxers from Carpienters era did not fight like that . It was jab or jab cross tie up and you are in the clinch, there was no dancing around at midrange . That would come down to a game of feints and Tua didnt really have feints from what I have seen. Also Carpienter was able to defend one punch with one arm instead of high guarding punches that came his way. When you are using a high guard you are using two arms to defend against one arm (the punch) Carpienter would parry with the right and swing with his left ,that would intercept the next punch Tua threw
     
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  11. Samtotheg

    Samtotheg Active Member Full Member

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    Tua would have to hit Carpienter on his way in,and I do not see that sort of counter punching ability from Tua .
     
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  12. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tua lost a pattycake session to byrd ?.....pathetic
    Even odds against carpentier, firpo and gibbons would be favored
     
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  13. janitor

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    Tua probably beats Carpintier without too much trouble.

    I make Tua a favorite over Firpo, but it is not a given that he wins.

    Gibbons probably outpoints Tua.
     
  14. CANNONBALL

    CANNONBALL Active Member Full Member

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    Tua by slaughter against all 3
     
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