David Tua v Roland Lastarza ?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why didn't Layne lose his chance in an eliminator when he lost to nobody Willie James who was11-2-1 or when he was decisively outpointed by Marciano victim Mathews? How come Lastarza was in an eliminator when 3 fights previously he was floored and beaten in a fight by a light heavyweight journeyman who some think had the cuffs on in the rematch? Those are facts not spin.
     
    mcvey, May 23, 2016
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I read it thanks and tend to agree with MarcianoFrazier who of the whole thing wrote most fairly about the matter:

    "Hasson's arguments seem fairly skewed and unfair on the whole, I'd say. It isn't true that LaStarza never fought a dangerous opponent other than Marciano; Dan Bucceroni was 38-2 and a RING top three contender when LaStarza beat him, and he positively smeared him, too. Layne was also top-three-ranked when LaStarza beat him, fresh off his win over Charles. Brion was a solid top 10. In a list like the one SuzieQ is compiling, I would consider Layne a good candidate for the top 10 and Bucceroni for the top 15. These are legitimate big wins for LaStarza, and in conjunction with his impressive result against Marciano the first time (in spite of Marciano's possibly-weakened mental state in the match), strong showing in the rematch (he was decisively beaten, but he was very competitive for much of it and did better than other potential candidates for a Marciano-era top 10 like Layne, Louis and Matthews did against Rocky) and impressive record with consistent results against second-and-third-tier competition, I think LaStarza easily qualifies for a top 10 spot amongst the heavyweights of his own era"
     
    choklab, May 23, 2016
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  3. foreman&dempsey

    foreman&dempsey Boxing Addict banned

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    lastarza was 189 pounds and 6´4? skinny mother****er
     
    foreman&dempsey, May 23, 2016
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    What was Brions best win? A dec over a past it Mauriello who was having his last fight? Bucceroni also beat Lastarza .
    Why would Marciano's mental state be a factor?:huh
    Which champion was mentally stronger than Rocky?
    Layne ,Brion and Bucceroni are Lastarza's signature wins.

    The question is begging to be asked,why are the names:
    Baker
    Valdes
    Gilliam
    Henry
    Holman
    Charles
    Dunlap
    Louis
    Wallace
    Sys
    Williams
    Mathews
    Bivins
    Gardner
    Harrison
    Neuhaus
    Summerlin
    Norkus
    Walls
    Satterfield
    Baksi
    Oma
    Maxim
    All missing from Lastarza's resume?
     
    mcvey, May 23, 2016
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  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Matthews beat Layne and got a fight with Marciano a short time later. Layne won a disputed decision from Charles which then kept him in the running for a title shot which he lost when LaStarza beat him.
     
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  6. Dubal Speek

    Dubal Speek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was? If you say so.
     
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