David Tua versus Jim Corbett

Byrd weighed more than 178 because he trained the way he did. When he trained like corbett and ran miles every day, he weighed less than Corbett. This was proved in his second last fight.

I wonder how much Tua would have weighed if he ran 10 miles a day instead of taking ice baths or whatever he did. Tua started his career at 21, and it is interesting that the closer he was to this weight, the sharper and better he looked.

 

Corbett has the perfect style to beat a Tua like fighter. Over 12 or 15 rounds it would be all Corbett punching at distance every round. Unless caught with a bomb prime Corbett coasts to a decision win. Great all time boxer vs a left hooker.

 

It's really something else.

 

No, you're not watching the clip.

https://streamable.com/414i

Fitzsimmons does not follow him around the ring.

That's a pretty big oversight. I don't think you care to really watch these guys because I notice you often say they do something that they do not actually do, or vice versa.

 

Also, comparing Corbett to Tua and Ike is one thing. Comparing him to Wlad is entirely another.

And I'm not underestimating Byrd. I think you guys are underestimating Corbett.

 

I don't follow what you're saying. I watch almost all of your clips but I'm usually far less impressed than you are (especially when your clips have things like boxers throwing poorly leveraged punches with poor technique, etc.) Maybe I'm getting my Corbett fights mixed up. Either way all of my points remain. Duping crude 175-200lb men who don't really know how to cut off the ring, throw combinations, or slip jabs might as well be a different sport than what Byrd had to do in his career.

 

Kevin has no idea what he is looking at quite obviously.

 

You don't have to be impressed. You said Fitzsimmons followed Corbett around. The exact clip I posted has Fitz attempting to cut off the ring, forcing Corbett to utilize his footwork and agility to get room.

It was the whole point of the clip.

 

Why don't you school me then, Perry?

 

Ah, fair enough. Fitzsimmons doesn't follow him per se but he certainly wasn't cutting off the ring in that clip. Like I said, his footwork was primitive and ineffective. Has no resemblance whatsoever to how men like Tua moved.

 

He was trying to. Corbett didn't let him.

 

I agree 100%

 

No. You don't cut off the ring with your back on the ropes and your opponent's back to the center of the ring.

There are actual techniques and strategies to cutting off the ring. It's a critical part of modern footwork against mobile fighters. Modern boxers learn effective techniques to cut off the ring that almost certainly had not been developed by Fitzsimmons' time. Fitzsimmons looks so clueless because he has no idea what he's doing. He has to resort to intuition and trial & error. There are probably hundreds of modern fighters who could run a footwork drill in the ring while Fitzsimmons ponderously tries to figure out his next step (literally and figuratively). Don't mistake his cluelessness for Corbett's transcendent greatness.

BTW, if you're interested, you can probably find some good videos on youtube about how to go about cutting off the ring. I'm sure there are different approaches but most probably revolve around forcing your opponent toward a corner and closing the distance without over-pursuing.

 

I would need an education degree for the mentally handicapped.

 

Yeah I know cutting off the ring.

I think you underestimate how hard he's making it. Look at him, he goes left, right, left, right. He's not moving in one single direction, in which cutting off the ring is way easier.

That movement and agility Corbetts using is special. It's very tricky, and slippery.