David Tua versus Jim Corbett

So then if you "know cutting off the ring", you know that he's not really trying to do it. He's completely clueless. He has no idea how to get closer to Corbett. He doesn't limit Corbett's range of motion, doesn't pressure him to choose a side, doesn't even try to press him backward. Like I said, many, many modern boxers, amateurs and pros, could have made Fitzsimmons look like a clown there. Tua would have done a far better job of pressuring Corbett and backing him toward the ropes. Situations like this are classic examples of how far the sport has evolved in ways that fans of the past legends don't really understand or appreciate it.

 

Perry, I don't care what these people say about you-- you're all right in my book! If only you understood boxing or were capable of an original thought from time to time...

 

Kevin knows little. He is especially weak in his knowledge of the sports history.

The larger the ring the more difficult cutting the ring becomes. Those days rings tended to be quite large. Secondly movement was more problematic in those days since the soles of the shoes were made of leather and even well scored quite slippery. Third cutting the ring is easy when fighting poor opposition but becomes more difficult as opponent skill level increases. So combine a huge ring and your fighting J J Corbett......cornering said opponent becomes quite a puzzle.

 

The simple answer you're overlooking is that Corbett has Fitzsimmons reacting to him, not the other way around.

You're thinking of aggressive tactics to close in, which works in some cases depending on who you're fighting. Liston couldn't close in as well when it was Ali he was fighting.

 

All relevant considerations. Nonetheless, no matter who your opponent or how big the ring or poor the traction, no fighter with a clue of how to cut off the ring would behave like Fitzsimmons there. You can't cut off the ring that way-- you can only hope to eventually lunge and get lucky.

 

You are very lost Kevin. I was like you 30 years ago. So maybe you have hope......in 30 years.

 

Of course he's reacting to Corbett. My point is that he's absolutely clueless about how to do so. You arent really comparing Fitzsimmons' tactics in this clip to Liston's against Clay, are you? I think you should read up/watch up on some of the fundamentals of cutting off the ring and dealing with mobile fighters when you get a chance. You can't/don't do it with your back on the ropes, bruh.

 

You make it sound so easy.

I don't think it was so easy.

 

Never said it's easy. But there are right ways and wrong ways, good moves and bad ones. There's a difference between having a plan and failing to execute v. not having a clue.

 

Are you wishing dementia on me? That's a pretty lousy thing to do, even for you.

 

His back is not on the ropes bruh. He's center ring.

https://youtu.be/LAPBsPVgW1A?t=34s

See? Fitzsimmons closes in on Corbett.

I'm feeling pretty good about my film ****ytical abilities right now, but I don't feel very good about yours.

 

Wow, the context of the youtube clip helps a lot. It also makes clear that Fitzsimmons is in fact mostly just following Corbett without closing distance or limiting his lateral movement (sidenote: kind of comical how he jumps back whenever Corbett feints at or rushes toward him-- like, do you want to close the distance or not??). In his defense, he does (unsuccessfully) try to cut off Corbett's ability to move right in the sequence before he throws that lunging amateurish haymaker and falls into the ropes. Still crude and inept but not nearly as clueless as he appeared in the streamable. :good

 

Because you're too slow for a regular degree?

 

Surreal that you guys can watch videos like this and imagine these men faring well against top-flight modern heavyweight fighters, or that Corbett is as skilled as Byrd.

 

A fantastic ****ysis by one of ESBs keenest eyes!

Mr. "Max Baer doesn't throw jabs," himself.

The one and only "That wasn't even 3 jabs" guy........

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