David Tua versus Jim Corbett

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Seamus, Aug 16, 2015.


  1. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At what point do you expect Corbett too start bobbing and weaving his way in, staying in front of Ibeabuchi and start reigning power shots. Your not really wrong bout anything you said though, the clash of styles is what makes this one so interesting for me.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    To be honest, I see Ibeabuchi running over Corbett in a very short fight. I see Corbett backing up and showing some lateral movement before eventually getting caught along the ropes and banged out with some fierce body punches.
     
  3. mcvey

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    I agree with the underlined.

    McCaffrey was a 5'9" super middleweight .Here he is on the floor against Sullivan who outweighed him by over 40lbs.
    Notice Sullivan's podgy torso.

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    McCaffrey got his shot at Sullivan by beating Charley Mitchell over 4 rds, Mitchell was a middleweight.Two fights before he lost to Corbett, Kilrain was beaten by middleweight Jack Dempsey.
    I don't see much depth to Corbetts resume tbh.
     
  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Yes Tua and Ike were awesome fighters. I have always believed so. You are not convincing me of something I don't already believe.

    I don't take away from boxers. Very rarely, I will say something extreme in response to somebody else saying something extreme. But I almost never take away from a boxer. If anything, I give maybe too much credit sometimes, but I don't take away.
     
  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    I'm a huge fan of Tua but I don't see this going well for him.
     
  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No, his knockouts are awesome. But the media quality of today has moved on. And the age is starting to show.

    And sarcastic morons will start popping up saying Tua was a fat bum, who couldn't box, knocked out amateurish boxers, and got taken to the distance by people like "Krishna Wainwright".

    They will see the knockouts, they will appreciate them. But their minds will race to come up wit ways to justify the lack of emotional connection they feel from the antiquated footage, by taking ignorant liberties at discrediting anything and everything.


    What? You think in 2070 casual boxing fans are going to revere Tua? Tony Galento was a bigger pop icon than David Tua, and nobody knows him. Casual boxing fans know Galento as a fat bum Louis fought to pad his record. This is despite having rocked Louis badly, something that is completely absent from his reputation today. And If those type of people know Tua, they will know him as a bloated, crude boxer. His redeeming quality will be having that one really fast knockout. Of course, amongst that crowd, there will be a Perry or a Janitor lurking about, setting people straight! :D
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've watched all of Tuas televised bouts. Never has impressed me. No imagination as a fighter and all left hook. Big hook but all hook.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He impressed the hell out of Lou Duvall and Teddy Atlas to name two... and I was present for his training in preparation for the Maske bout so please drop some more of you intimate boxing knowledge on me.
     
  9. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch oops, I totally meant Tua, not Ike.
     
  10. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looking honestly at that short Tua clip, it is clear that there is going to be some stylistic differences. Tua leans in while corbett as a general rule leans away. Generally this means that while Tua is clearly going to do some heavy damage when he does loan, he will also be repe on will feel the full brunt of Jim Corbett's blows when he does sit down on them.

    One interesting thing about Tua is that while there is plenty of talk about modern skills, and i think his left is very good, his right to me is often dropped and in fact, when in close he seems to have a bad habit of dropping his left hand, meaning that he is open to Jim's straight left and rights.

    Saying all this, Corbett himself also seems to rely more on speed, movement and reflexes rather than a proper guard, and as it was against Jeffries, this could easily be his undoing. I think it fair to say that Tua, on this clip at least, had a work rate that will really test Corbett.

    And, being honest, even though Tua to me looks badly overweight, evenat this early stage of his career, he does look absolutely huge compared to corbett, if anyone is totally honest.

    Corbetts offence is another hard one to pick. He clearly telegraphs more than i would like and like Ali, he seems to concentrate more on landing the arm punches than sitting down on his punches and doing damage.

    Stylistically, Corbett will change the distance and Tua will find it hard chasing him around. The real question is how long he can keep chasing for. If he does it as long as he did in the IKe fight then he should be okay, but Corbetts style should tire him out a lot more.

    Corbett definitely has the better resume. Purely on film, Tua looks the better fighter (to me). Condition wise Corbett is a lot better.
     
  11. mcvey

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    As usual, an honest post:good
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Impressing Atlas is not a ringing endorsement. Maskeav was a little slow. Yet he was in the lead until the 11th round where he ran out of gas.

    Corbett won't run out of gas. He can operate at full speed easily for 12 rounds. Tua can not. He's a plodder type with a short but powerful hook.
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Similar dynamic. Tua presses Corbett, times him backing up with his hands low and head high, catches him with a huge, deceptively fast hook, and finishes him with a brutal combination. A better matchup than Ike, but only in the relative sense; I still don't see Corbett surviving for long.
     
  14. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    The Maskaev ****ogy seems completely inapt though. For all his limitations, Maskaev was a very big man (6'3/233) and a big puncher who kept Tua off him with stiff punches and regular jabs that disrupted his offense and made him reluctant to open up and unload. From what I can tell, Corbett was a small man who kept opponents off him mostly by moving without punching (with occasional arm punches). I don't see how Maskaev's (limited) success tells us anything about a matchup between Tua and Corbett.
     
  15. reznick

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    Now thats a great post.