David Tua versus Jim Corbett

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    The fact that he did a lot in the first half of a 21 round against the fast and slippery Corbett, after a long and somewhat unhealthy break from the ring speaks highly of him.
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    This might be a dumb question but were the rounds and breaks the modern 3-minute round/1-minute break format by 1892? Do the reports give any sense of how many (or how few) punches these guys threw & landed per round?
     
  3. mcvey

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    But he didn't ,as I said read the reports!

    Then you'll be as smart as me!:yep
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I am biased toward the facts.
     
  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Sullivan was an awesome fighting machine during his brief prime. If you were to pick the heavyweight champion who had the most distance between himself and his next contender, you would be wise to pick Sullivan from the mid-1880's.

    By 1892, he had drunk him into a coma at least once (I have read twice), he had suffered an illness so bad he was given up for dead and was paralyzed for weeks, he had a badly healed broken arm and was by his own trainer's admittance "hog fat". He was essentially retired.
     
  6. reznick

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    lol Jesus. John L was insane.
     
  7. janitor

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  8. janitor

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    None of this is either disputed or lost on me.

    I think that a prime Sullivan would have splattered Corbett to be honest.

    He was however the lineal champion, and perhaps still a dangerous opponent over that distance.
     
  9. mcvey

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  11. mcvey

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  12. kingfisher3

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    i don't understand the resume's you guys are discussing

    tua is 0-0 and corbett is 3-1-0-2, but versus fighters ****ogous to tua he is also 0-0. edit - similar to tua
     
  13. mcvey

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    Because some posters [ 1, ] have knocked Tua's opposition and stated he did not beat any elite level fighters ,I have compared his best wins with Corbett's.
    I've taken the resumes and tale of the tapes of each fighter as he was when Tua and Corbett met them.I've then asked Janitor to match Tua's opponents against Corbett's in a round robin over 15rds.
    eg Hasim Rahman versus the versions of the following that Corbett faced.
    Sullivan
    Choynski
    Mitchell
    Kilrain
    Rahman weighed 234.5lbs for the first Tua fight and he was 6' 2.5" and 29-0-0
    Choynski weighed about 165lbs for the Corbett fight , he was 5' 11" and 1-0-0
    He would be conceding just under 70lbs to Rahman and 3.5 inches in height ,plus he was a novice

    Mitchell was 165lbs 5'9" and his record at that time was 27-10-2 6 of his last 7 fights had been no decisions. Mitchell would be giving Rahman 70lbs 5.5" in height and he was primarily a bareknuckle fighter who fought under LPR rules where if you were in trouble or under pressure you could voluntarily drop to the ground and the round would automatically end,he did this against Sullivan to survive to a draw.

    I've asked Janitor three times to give his predictions of the outcomes of these and the other projected fights. As yet he has not done so.
     
  14. mcvey

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    THis is a photo of a prime Sullivan at 28 years old defending against Dominick McCafferty 5'9" 167lbs.
    He is fat with a roll of lard hanging on his belly
    Sullivan weighed 208lbs for this fight.

    Sullivan fought Corbett 5 years later when he was 33 and he scaled 212lbs .

    When he fought Corbett, Sullivan was a fat drunk who had not fought for 4.5years .That is the truth.End of!

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  15. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    I'm awaiting Janitors picks with interest. Thats if he can bring himself to admit the big guys are going to win out.