David Tua versus Jim Corbett

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  1. uncletermite

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  2. Seamus

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    I am Janitor.

    Now you know.
     
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    McNeeley sucks, bro. He's really bad.

    Corbett would probably beat his ass.
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

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    Tend to agree but one thing's for sure: McNeeley-Corbett is a much more competitive fight than Tua-Corbett.
     
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    He would first have to know how to block an on coming punch that would reach him and throw a jab correctly.:lol:


    Tom McNeeley CLEARLy is sharper than Corbett its on VIDEO..imagine what a 225 pound version of him does to Corbett.No one said McNeeleys a world beater but by the early 1900 standards he would looked at like Mike Tyson.:scaredas:
     
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  11. fists of fury

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    There is no doubt that boxing has evolved from Corbett's time, at least in my mind.

    However, we must be careful not to so easily dismiss the skillset of fighters from this period either. They were good at what they did, although dare I say that they needed some fine tuning compared to today's guys. With Queensbury rules at least.

    But nobody has stopped to ask the obvious: what equipment are they using? Modern equipment would be alien to Corbett. Corbett's equipment would be alien to Tua. The ring canvas etc. would all change depending on the era etc.
     
  12. The Long Count

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    Tua the sport has clearly evolved from Corbett's time. Fighters of Corbett's era tended to pace themselves for the long duration of the bout. They would encircle one another and do a lot of measuring and feinting conserving energy. Tua would come in bombs away and at some point early he would catch Corbett and really hurt him.
     
  13. ribtickler68

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    That seems fair enough. My questions about this "evolution" in boxing are: Is the evolution complete? At which point did fighters improve dramatically? Did the evolution level off at some point? Because if it a continuous improvement, then by definition Vlad must be better than Lewis, and Fury must be better than Vlad?

    Also, Robinson can't be as good as Monzon and Hagler must be superior to Monzon. Does quality only count when Ali is matched with the new Supermen? Is he able to defy the "improvements" in technique and fitness?

    I think there is a middle ground here, unless you want to go down the line of saying Haye, Chisora and Fury are among the greatest Heavyweights of all time. I think the "old fighters were always better" line is garbage, but the "modern fighters are superior in every way" is equally preposterous.
     
  14. mcvey

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    I'm thinking how well Oquendo did against Tua.
    Then I'm thinking Tua finally caught up with him.
    I'm thinking Corbett, when past prime went 23 rds with Jeffries and was in front, but he then got caught and stopped.
    I'm thinking Corbett was dropped and stopped by a single body shot .
    I'm thinking Sharkey gave Corbett hell before Jim's second jumped into the ring to save him by dsq.
    I'm thinking Tua would be much more agressive against Corbett than Jeffries was in their first fight, he would be forcing the pace and Jim would be back pedalling throwing out annoying jabs and hooks, but not realy hurting Tua or giving him pause for thought.
    I'm thinking that, knowing Jim can't really hurt him Tua would be all over the dancer and, though Corbett had fast feet and Tua did not, I'm thinking Tua would get home with enough of those rather hard hooks to Corbett's belly to slow up those twinkling Fred Astaire's.
    I'm thinking this would allow the squat Tua to commence to land more often.I'm thinking that when that begins to happen it would be only a matter of time before Tua administers the quietus.

    Therefore by Tua inside twelve rounds.

    That's what I'm thinking.
     
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  15. kingfisher3

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    exactly. evolution is simply change due to situation and is only indirectly linked to improvement. ( pigmy elephants are an evolution of normal elephants due to living on small islands, the only thing they are better at than what they evolved from is surviving on limited resources.)