David Tua versus Jim Corbett

His fights with Dempsey and Gardner are pretty good evidence.

 

Dempsey was an over the hill super welter weight.Gardner did not have the power to keep Fitz away .Fitz struggled in this fight because his feet badly blistered and his shoes were full of blood when the fight ended,but in neither fight
did he exhibit the boxing science you speak of ,he simply hit too hard for both his opponents.
TBH I'm surprised here, because I've always thought of you as being a guy focused on this era.

 

From the reports I think he showed quite a bit.

Dempsey was past it but coming off a solid win over McCarthy, which Dempsey won easilly, so it's definitely still a really good win. The reports I've seen of the fight against Dempsey all comment on him out generaling him. Fitz said he slipped a lot of the punches some of the reports say hit him, and given he was said to be pretty unmarked at the end, I'm inclined to think there's a good chance of it.

The Gardner fight reports notes him fighting on the defensive at points, and I definitely think he outboxed Gardner much more than overpowering him. He fought much more defensively, especially later on, than a lot of other fights, with Gardner having a lot of trouble landing on him.

 

What evidence? The contemporary writers and fanboys would have you believe that he was "highly skilled", but the film suggests otherwise.

So is that evidence you speak of going off of writers and other people's opinions, or on what you actually see on film?

As far as strategy, I believe Fitz' strategy was: hit him any way you can...

Did he masterfully set up that shot? Doubtful. He saw an opening and shot.

 

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Incidentally I like your input!

 

Fair enough. I enjoy yours too. Always going to be disagreements, if there were none it'd be less interesting. Might be worth a thread on its own.

 

Underrated posts.

This thread really needed a poll.

 

Which men did he beat who were great when he beat them?
How many heavyweights as we now know the term, did Corbett beat?
Name 3 men over 178lbs that he beat?

 

And the fact Corbett couldn't take his left hook!

 

If you put em in a phone booth, Tua knocks him out for sure.

 

Tua would kill him

 

Possibly, Rahman was very beatable.

If he used the tactics that he used in the second Jeffries fight (jab and move), he would have a very good chance.

Tua also, was very beatable.

If he was facing the same version of Ruiz, who was a long way off being world class, then he migth do as well, or close enough that it didn't matter.

Tua lost.

Anybody could replicate that!

 

There are plenty who would not be around to hear the final bell though.

 

No doubt, but people are holding up a loss, as a key credential here!

If we are going to play that game, then Corbett did very well against Jeffries in a losing effort, and he was actually relevant at the time!